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Old 09-22-2015, 11:00 AM   #1
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Some here would not vote for Bernie.....is one reason because he is a socialist?

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Old 09-22-2015, 11:03 AM   #2
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Some here would not vote for Bernie.....is one reason because he is a socialist?
That's one reason. Another would be that he wrote that women fantasize about being gang raped. Yet another reason is that he's been in the Senate for about 85 years, and has done just about nothing as far as I can tell.
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:55 PM   #3
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That one reason is no different then ben carson saying about muslims.....that is your opinon same as ben's opinon.....so what is the fuzz with people for what he said....carson has a very good point and concern about a muslim president.....united states could under a muslim president have 2 sets of laws such as in the united kingdom....in our country we have people that believe in equality...therfore giving into muslim sharia law perhaps....

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socialism and Islam are incompatible with our Constitution, and that is why.....
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May be incompatible and do not coexist at the same time or in the same place but both laws exsist in Briton....in our country americans R gullible....

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Old 09-23-2015, 07:32 AM   #6
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socialism and Islam are incompatible with our Constitution, and that is why.....
Separation of church and state was created so that this country could be compatable with any religion and not push one religion down someone's throat or hold them accountable for religious violations like what happened in Salem.

what could not support a Muslim president is bigoted religious folks.
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Separation of church and state was created so that this country could be compatable with any religion and not push one religion down someone's throat or hold them accountable for religious violations like what happened in Salem.

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I really hate to sound like Spence here, but what Carson said may be being taken out of context. Before Carson said what he said about Muslims, right before that, he specifically said he would support someone of any religion for President, as long as that person was able to make his religion take a back seat to the US Constitution. His concerns about a Muslim were directed at a hypothetical Muslim who would have difficulty putting the principles of our Constitution ahead of the principles of Islam. No one would want a radical Islamic president.

Furthermore, Carson didn't say such a person doesn't have the right to run for President, he said he wouldn't support it. If someone asked Obama if he would support a hard-line Tea Party candidate for President, and if Obama was being honest for once, he would say "no I would not support that". What's the difference?

I like to think I'm not an anti-Muslim bigot, and I am friendly with a few Muslims. But there is something about that religion that causes an extremism not found today, in any other religions. There is a reason for that. I don't know exactly what the reason is. But what I do know, is that nobody is concerned about Mormons, Catholics, or born-again Christians, blowing people up. We have federal agencies dedicated to the threat of radical Islamists, we don't have teams dedicated to tracking radical Quakers, not that I know of at least.
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Separation of church and state was created so that this country could be compatable with any religion and not push one religion down someone's throat or hold them accountable for religious violations like what happened in Salem.

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you forgot "haters"...have you ever actually read the Constitution or spent any time studying American History?

"But the problems with a Muslim being President aren’t religious, they’re political. Islamic law infringes upon the freedom of speech, forbidding criticism of Islam. Islamic law denies equality of rights to women. Islamic law denies equality of rights to non-Muslims. If a Muslim renounced all this, he or she could be an effective Constitutional ruler, but in today’s politically correct climate, no one is even likely to ask for such a renunciation. Instead, no one even acknowledges that these really are elements of Islamic law.

No one, that is, except the Muslim clerics who agree with Carson. Syrian Islamic scholar Abd Al-Karim Bakkar said in March 2009: “Democracy runs counter to Islam on several issues….In democracy, legislation is the prerogative of the people. It is the people who draw up the constitution, and they have the authority to amend it as well. On this issue we differ” -- because in Islamic thought, only Allah legislates.

Abd Al-Karim Bakkar was reflecting a common view. Pakistan Muslim leader Sufi Muhammad said in May 2009: “I would not offer prayer behind anyone who would seek to justify democracy.” Mesbah Yazdi, leader of the Shia Taliban in Iran, said in September 2010 that “democracy, freedom, and human rights have no place” -- in Islam, that is. Australian Muslim cleric Ibrahim Saddiq Conlan said in June 2011: “Democracy is evil, the parliament is evil and legislation is evil.”

In January 2013, the Saudi Islamic scholar Sheikh Abdul Rahman bin Nassir Al Barrak declared: “Electing a president or another form of leadership or council members is prohibited in Islam as it has been introduced by the enemies of Moslems.” The idea of popular elections, he said, “has been brought by the anti-Islam parties who have occupied Moslem land.”



Some Muslims in the West hold these views as well. In April 2015, Muslims in Wales plastered Cardiff with posters reading: “Democracy is a system whereby man violates the right of Allah and decides what is permissible or impermissible for mankind, based solely on their whims and desires. This leads to a decayed and degraded society where crime and immorality becomes widespread and injustice becomes the norm. Islam is the only real, working solution for the UK. It is a comprehensive system of governance where the laws of Allah are implemented and justice is observed.”

And two Muslim groups in Denmark last June called on Muslims to boycott the elections that were held that month. One explained: “We are committed to being active participants in our society, but it has to be on Islam’s terms, without compromising our own principles and values. Democracy is fundamentally incompatible with Islam, and it is a sinking ship.” The Grimshøj mosque in Aarhus agreed, issuing a statement saying that “people should stay clear of the voting booths. We have concluded that only Allah can pass laws, as he says himself in the Koran that this is so.”

Tunisian author Salem Ben Ammar wrote last month: “‘To hell with democracy! Long live Islam!’ One hundred percent of Muslims agree with that. To say anything else is apostasy from Islam. These two competing political systems are antithetical to each other. You can’t be democratic and be a Muslim or a Muslim and be a democrat. A Jew can’t be a Nazi and a Nazi can’t be a Judeophile.”

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