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10-23-2015, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Spence, without quoting MSNBC or anyone like that, just your thoughts...
(1) do you agree that in the immediate aftermath of the attack, the administration was sticking to the "video" theory? Was there any hint, in the first 48 hours, that they weren't confident it was the video? For God's sake, one of the victim's father, said that Hilary told him that they were going to arrest the guy who made the video.
(2) do you believe, based on Hilary's private communications that have come to light, that she must have though there was a chance it was a planned terrorist attack?
If you agree with (1) and (2), how can you not hold her accountabke for blaming an innocent US citizen, for 4 murders? How would you like it is teh SecState went on national TV and called you out for something you didn't do?
It's not like her word is all that credible at this point. She's a pathological liar (I was shot at in Kosovo, Bill didn't cheat on me but was framed by the GOP, there were no work emails among what I deleted from my server). So why do you continue to accept everything she says, as God's word?
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I don't take everything she says as God's word, I'm taking what she has said in context of the investigations on the matter.
The evidence after the attack was all over the map. Militants taking credit then not taking credit. Attackers claiming the video was indeed their motivation etc...the next day both Obama and Clinton referred to the attackers as terrorists and heavily armed militants. This is with over a dozen video protests in the region many of which were violent.
The emails presented last night have to be put in context of the thinking at that moment which by Clinton's admission went back and forth.
Add to that the multiple investigations which concluded the talking points were led by the CIA and not manipulated for political purposes.
I know you just don't want to let go, perhaps this will help. Nobody at the IRS broke the law either
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/politi...rty/index.html
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10-23-2015, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't take everything she says as God's word, I'm taking what she has said in context of the investigations on the matter.
The evidence after the attack was all over the map. Militants taking credit then not taking credit. Attackers claiming the video was indeed their motivation etc...the next day both Obama and Clinton referred to the attackers as terrorists and heavily armed militants. This is with over a dozen video protests in the region many of which were violent.
The emails presented last night have to be put in context of the thinking at that moment which by Clinton's admission went back and forth.
Add to that the multiple investigations which concluded the talking points were led by the CIA and not manipulated for political purposes.
I know you just don't want to let go, perhaps this will help. Nobody at the IRS broke the law either
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/politi...rty/index.html
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"The evidence after the attack was all over the map"
But. That's. Not. What. She. Said. At. The. Time.
She said, repeatedly, that it was the video. If she had said, "we're trying to figure it out", I would have no issue with that. She knew there was plenty of evidence that it was something other than the video, but that explanation would paint her in the best possible light, so who cares if it involved publicly blaming a citizen she swore to serve?
Do you listen to yourself?
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10-23-2015, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"The evidence after the attack was all over the map"
But. That's. Not. What. She. Said. At. The. Time.
She said, repeatedly, that it was the video. If she had said, "we're trying to figure it out", I would have no issue with that. She knew there was plenty of evidence that it was something other than the video, but that explanation would paint her in the best possible light, so who cares if it involved publicly blaming a citizen she swore to serve?
Do you listen to yourself?
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I don't think you've paid any attention to what she actually said...then or now.
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10-23-2015, 05:37 PM
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I don't think you've paid any attention to what she actually said...then or now.
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I agree one of us hasn't paid any attention to it.
Days after the attack, she said "We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with." (so don't blame me!)
http://www.redstate.com/2015/10/22/h...terror-attack/
Yet the day after the attack (according to the hearings yesterday) she told the Egyptian Prime Minister Kandil "We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest."
https://reason.com/blog/2015/10/22/h...benghazi-video
How many more do you want?
You said I don't want to let it go. Wrong. The issue, is that you don't want to go near it, because she has a "D" after her last name.
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