Is this true??

[Nebe]

Actually, I'm done asking questions about Carson.

If we review, I said even before Bernie Sander's announced that he would run for president, that he would be president and I still feel that strongly.
Furthermore, there is no way this country would elect Carson after this pyramid statement. Trump is a joke, nothing more to say there.. Rubio or Cruz will face Sanders in a very close race.

Just my opinion.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

What was the question ? Several embassies were attacked and over 50 people were killed.

I kind of know what the rapture is. It is when the living float up into the heaven along with the dead who believe in Christ. (This is after his second coming).
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actually the rapture is first...the second coming would come "second" believe it or not...but you sort of get it...

[spence]

I would be concerned that if Carson believes the end of days is near, and ISIS holds a similar position, can Ben Carson renounce his religion so that it doesn't interfere with his duty to uphold the Constitution?

It's possible that his beliefs are fundamentally incompatible with the USA

[Fly Rod]

R U serious Nebe....that statement was a joke ,right....hehehe....Sanders is a socialist.....when I think of him I think of hitler.....he will never B the fuhrer of this country....

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

actually the rapture is first...the second coming would come "second" believe it or not...but you sort of get it...

He's already come once.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

I would be concerned that if Carson believes the end of days is near, and ISIS holds a similar position, can Ben Carson renounce his religion so that it doesn't interfere with his duty to uphold the Constitution?

It's possible that his beliefs are fundamentally incompatible with the USA

Thats exactly why I asked.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

R U serious Nebe....that statement was a joke ,right....hehehe....Sanders is a socialist.....when I think of him I think of hitler.....he will never B the fuhrer of this country....

Dead serious.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

He's already come once.
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in terms of rapture and second coming as it relates to end of times...the rapture happens first, the second coming would be after that( you had it backwards)...in terms of Carson and his belief on this... neither or their timing matters...


if you and Spence are going to attack Carson as someone who gets things wrong and sounds like a nut, you should get thing wrong and sound like nuts so frequently ...

[Nebe]

Ok. I understand. But you get my point here. No?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Ok. I understand. But you get my point here. No?
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I'm afraid I don't...hang on...let me take a bong hit...that's what Bernie would suggest

[Nebe]

He would actually. Because it's gods weed
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[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

if you and Spence are going to attack Carson as someone who gets things wrong and sounds like a nut, you should get thing wrong and sound like nuts so frequently ...

Not to be all pedantic on a fishing site but we expect more.

[Jim in CT]

Nebe, what polling are you relying on, when you say that Hilary is not going to be the nominee? I haven't seen a poll (other than Iowa and NH) that has him anywhere near her. No one is saying Bernie is going to beat her, unless she gets indicted in the email thing, in which case the DNC would dust someone off the shelf (Kerry, Gore, Biden) to run. They will never allow Sanders to get the nomination.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Nebe, what polling are you relying on, when you say that Hilary is not going to be the nominee? I haven't seen a poll (other than Iowa and NH) that has him anywhere near her. No one is saying Bernie is going to beat her, unless she gets indicted in the email thing, in which case the DNC would dust someone off the shelf (Kerry, Gore, Biden) to run. They will never allow Sanders to get the nomination.

I don't think Sanders can win the general election. I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there.

If it did I'd love to see Bloomberg and Romney both run late. That would be fun to watch.

[Nebe]

The polling I am relying on is my own. 😎
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The polling I am relying on is my own. 😎
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so Bernie won the straw poll at your Hippie Club meeting?...that's not surprising...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I said even before Bernie Sander's announced that he would run for president, that he would be president and I still feel that strongly.

Just my opinion.
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we can look forward to celebrating Bernie's 50 years in government...you still a big supporter of term limits?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think Sanders can win the general election. I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there.

If it did I'd love to see Bloomberg and Romney both run late. That would be fun to watch.

"I don't think Sanders can win the general election."

Agreed. Do you think he can win the primary? I don't see him doing anything after Iowa and NH. Unless Hilary gets indicted, Bernie will be done by Super Tuesday, if he lasts that long.

"I also don't see anything that would derail Clinton, for all the hype there's just nothing there"

I'll disagree and leave it at that. Are you talking primary or general? The polls I have seen, show that a handful of GOP candidates are right with her, if not slightly ahead in a general match-up.

It's going to be so long and ugly. 90% of the talk (99% of Hilary's talk) will be baseless attacks, claims of racism, homophobia, war on women, insane promises of free this and that, blah, blah, blah.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

Paul appears to be struggling to contain and control his "hate"..

You're confusing me with Jim (unless that was suppose to be some sort of little jab - then I would say good one). I don't start posts crying about every little thing or post the same thing over and over and over again or call the Pres. a POS or Hillary things like FCOTUS.

So is there any proof he actually got offered a "scholarship"? What congressman nominated him? Is there any record of West Point receiving that or approving him for admission? I already provided a link to an article which showd he had a relationship with the nutritional company even though he recently denied it. So did he or did he not try to kill someone? His book said he was violent and tried to kill someone and tried to attack his mom with a hammer.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're confusing me with Jim (unless that was suppose to be some sort of little jab - then I would say good one). I don't start posts crying about every little thing or post the same thing over and over and over again or call the Pres. a POS or Hillary things like FCOTUS. "hate" referred to your teabagger tourette's and your constant reference to "hate"

So is there any proof he actually got offered a "scholarship"?

I was offered "scholarships" for which I have no proof, calls from coaches encouraging me to apply and attend schools that I chose not to, how do you prove that?.....given the fact that West Point was actively recruiting black students and he was the highest regarded in Detroit at the time and met with the contingent it would be highly unlikely that the subject was not mentioned in my opinion


What congressman nominated him? noone ever said a congressman nominated


Is there any record of West Point receiving that or approving him for admission?

he stated that he only every applied to one school...Yale...while there were many that wanted him given his record...


I already provided a link to an article which showed he had a relationship with the nutritional company even though he recently denied it.

what was the relationship? he used a product and said he liked it....was he ever an employee or paid spokesman?


So did he or did he not try to kill someone? did he?

His book said he was violent and tried to kill someone and tried to attack his mom with a hammer. did it?


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I wish you applied the same level of scrutiny to everyone

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

we can look forward to celebrating Bernie's 50 years in government...you still a big supporter of term limits?

Just for Corperate tit s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g shills.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I already provided a link to an article which showd he had a relationship with the nutritional company even though he recently denied it. what was the relationship? he used a product and said he liked it....was he ever an employee or paid spokesman?

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Come on Scott, this is an easy one if he was paid to do the speeches, he lied about this.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...natech/412987/



http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...s-donald-trump
On NBC, Carson continued: “I am soft-spoken. I do have a tendency to be relaxed. I wasn’t always like that. There was a time when I was, you know, very volatile. But, you know, I changed.

“As a teenager, I would go after people with rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hammers. And, of course, many people know the story when I was 14 and I tried to stab someone. And, you know, fortunately … my life has been changed. And I’m a very different person now.”

(The "" mean Carson actually said these words...")

Carson, the author of a number of bestselling books, has often told the story of his wayward youth and the time he attempted to stab a friend. The person he threatened with a hammer was his mother.


Does any of this preclude him from running? No, but his story is getting silly, and it appears he is twisting things to make his story sound even better which is too bad, because w/o the West Point or hammer or stab story he still has a compelling story

And yes Jim, Hillary lied about the sniper file to conflate things as well. Yes she probably knew Bill was having affair. Her story sucks as well.

It bothers me that all around these are the best we have to offer. Sanders can't win a general. Period, Nebe. Hillary will probably pick Jim Webb as a VP to get the middle of the road blue dog/Regan democrats and win the general.

[Nebe]

We shall see.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Nebe

We shall see.
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The only way he is the Democratic nominee is if Hillary dies, becomes incapacitated medically or is indicted; and even then, he won't be the nominee.

He is driving some conversation, but he can't win a general.

[PaulS]

I believe that I heard the news saying that Carson admitted he never was offered a scholarship and that General Westmorland was never at the dinner Carson claimed he talked to him at. ( I just turned it on and there was talking in the room so I'll have to look into this more to see if I heard it correctly). This was after Carson told the news to stop lying.

If someone offers you a scholarship and it ain't in writing, it ain't a scholarship. If WP was actively recruiting Blacks, he prob. had a good chance of getting in. But it looks like no "scholarship" was offered

As RRH said, his story is compelling enough w/o making things up. His campaign has said he has gotten record donations since the liberal WSJ broke the story.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Come on Scott, this is an easy one if he was paid to do the speeches, he lied about this.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...natech/412987/
I agree that he appears less than forthcoming regarding his answer...he was put on the spot and should not have out of hand dismissed any relationship


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...s-donald-trump
On NBC, Carson continued: “I am soft-spoken. I do have a tendency to be relaxed. I wasn’t always like that. There was a time when I was, you know, very volatile. But, you know, I changed.

“As a teenager, I would go after people with rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hammers. And, of course, many people know the story when I was 14 and I tried to stab someone. And, you know, fortunately … my life has been changed. And I’m a very different person now.”

(The "" mean Carson actually said these words...")

Carson, the author of a number of bestselling books, has often told the story of his wayward youth and the time he attempted to stab a friend. The person he threatened with a hammer was his mother.


Does any of this preclude him from running? No, but his story is getting silly, and it appears he is twisting things to make his story sound even better which is too bad, because w/o the West Point or hammer or stab story he still has a compelling story

And yes Jim, Hillary lied about the sniper file to conflate things as well. Yes she probably knew Bill was having affair. Her story sucks as well.

It bothers me that all around these are the best we have to offer. Sanders can't win a general. Period, Nebe. Hillary will probably pick Jim Webb as a VP to get the middle of the road blue dog/Regan democrats and win the general.

I don't understand why the childhood anger issues are relevant or in question..he grew up in Detroit during the 60's.. do a little googling about Detroit during the 60's...we threw rocks at each other in my neighborhood and we didn't have race riots going on at the time, the little puke across the street threw a hammer at me once and got a beating for it...where did you guys grow up?...a couple of kids in my class blew themselves up with a pipe bomb and my brother got angry and chased me down the street with a knife once, I kept running because he seemed pretty serious...I'd never have threatened my mother mostly because my Dad would have kicked my ass...I'm not sure Carson's Dad was around...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I believe that I heard the news saying that Carson admitted he never was offered a scholarship and that General Westmorland was never at the dinner Carson claimed he talked to him at. ( I just turned it on and there was talking in the room so I'll have to look into this more to see if I heard it correctly). This was after Carson told the news to stop lying. pretty sure that would be everywhere if he did

If someone offers you a scholarship and it ain't in writing, it ain't a scholarship. correct...it's an "offer"... which is all he ever said was extended in his conversation...I believe he's also side that Michigan gave him a similar "offer"...that needs to be investigated as well probably

If WP was actively recruiting Blacks not "if", he prob. had a good chance of getting in. Top of his class excelled in ROTC and eventually became a neurosurgeon...yeah, he might have squeaked in But it looks like no "scholarship" was offered again...you have absolutely no idea what was offered

As RRH said, his story is compelling enough w/o making things up. you have no idea what was or was not made up [COLOR="blue"]

His campaign has said he has gotten record donations since the liberal WSJ broke the story.
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pretty sure it was Politico that broke the story....Jim Geraghty has been writing on the Mannatech story for almost a year...guess it just became relavant

[Raven]

hilliary wants reclassification

[PaulS]

Here are a couple more:

The Journal pointed out that Carson falsely claimed last week in a Facebook post that “Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience.” The paper interviewed Benjamin L. Carp, an associate professor of history at Brooklyn College and author of books on the American Revolution. According to The Journal’s article on the matter: “Mr. Carp said Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, John Hancock and many other signers had been elected members of their colonial assemblies, prior to signing the Declaration.”

In comparing the success of his Carson Scholars Fund to other nonprofits, Carson has repeatedly claimed that “nine out of 10 nonprofits fail,” a claim that The Washington Post Fact Checker has rated false with four Pinocchios, the worst rating — what the newspaper simply calls “whoppers.”
Of the 19 claims of Carson the fact checking site PolitiFact has delved into, none have been ruled true and only one mostly true. Indeed most — like Carson’s claim that he “ ‘didn’t have an involvement with’ nutritional supplement company Mannatech” — have either been ruled false or what the site calls “pants on fire,” a statement the site rules as not only not accurate, but “ridiculous.”

[Nebe]

http://thebernreport.com/bernie-sand...mock-election/

Just saw this this morning.
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