Gun guys - do you think carrying makes a difference for terrorist threats?

[spence]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Secondly, it matters not whether a perpetrator is Muslim looking, or an obsessive fashionista. What matters is the behavior of said person in determining whether a concealed weapon comes unholstered. Mine has never come out in civilian life, and I hope it never has to.

Anti-Muslim hate crimes are still 5 times what they were before 9/11 and on that year they saw a massive spike. As the clock kid thread has shown, people's perception of "behavior" is largely colored by race and religion.

I believe the vast majority of people who seek a CCW have good intentions and will use sound judgement, but expansion beyond this natural base for other reasons will also cause problems.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Anti-Muslim hate crimes are still 5 times what they were before 9/11 and on that year they saw a massive spike. As the clock kid thread has shown, people's perception of "behavior" is largely colored by race and religion.

I believe the vast majority of people who seek a CCW have good intentions and will use sound judgement, but expansion beyond this natural base for other reasons will also cause problems.

There is a reason attacks happen in gun free zones . These guys are bigger cowards then you think .
As far as Muslim hate crimes .. Cry me a river . I have yet to here outspoken condemnation by Muslim leaders nor have I seen protest against radical Islamist .
If it quacks like a duck it's probably a duck
I think people's "perception " has been largely colored by blood and brutality .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

There is a reason attacks happen in gun free zones . These guys are bigger cowards then you think .
As far as Muslim hate crimes .. Cry me a river . I have yet to here outspoken condemnation by Muslim leaders nor have I seen protest against radical Islamist .
If it quacks like a duck it's probably a duck
I think people's "perception " has been largely colored by blood and brutality .
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Ahhh the old gun free zone myth. As for Muslim leadership condemnation, it's all out there.
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by spence

Ahhh the old gun free zone myth.
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Why don't you expound on why the myth is a myth???? I just want to know because I am aware of a number of killings that took place in so called gun free zones. So instead of coming off in a condescending tone, say what you, again, are alluding to.... A statement like above is just thrown out there as chicken chit....... Jeff, you should really go into politics. I am sure you will be successful, because your style of discussion/debate is really irritating.

[spence]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Why don't you expound on why the myth is a myth???? I just want to know because I am aware of a number of killings that took place in so called gun free zones. So instead of coming off in a condescending tone, say what you, again, are alluding to.... A statement like above is just thrown out there as chicken chit....... Jeff, you should really go into politics. I am sure you will be successful, because your style of discussion/debate is really irritating.

We've covered this before. There is no data that supports the argument that gun free zones attract mass shootings. This is from memory but I believe only 15 percent or less of mass shootings have taken place in gun free zones. I'm not aware of a single recent mass shooting incident where any motive was associated with the gun free zone as a softer target.

The whole gun free zone argument is a rhetorical device.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not aware of a single recent mass shooting incident where any motive was associated with the gun free zone as a softer target.

The whole gun free zone argument is a rhetorical device.
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you have to be kidding and don't care about being taken seriously or have a terrible memory. The recent movie theater killings, Nebe's link, the concert hall in Paris.

rhetorical device? and you should know about those as a true liberal that you are, and being very familiar with those.

the gun free zone topic of discussion comes up because people can't protect themselves in those places of vulnerability so are sitting ducks, easy targets to slaughter. How do you not get that?

I don't carry, but am considering it. I am not going to be a victim if I can help it, and the more threats there are, I and my family are better off if I am armed. I also have a S&W Sheild in 40 cal. but need to get the trigger done. It fits perfect in a custom holster made by my brother who recently started a business making and selling them.