So, how about our brilliant middle eastern vetting process

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"In other words, you agree with what he said.
"

Here's all anyone here needs to now about you and politics. Hilary said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia. You will not say that she lied. I say "I don't know" what to think about Trump, and you know for certain what my intentions are. Have fun explaining that.

I don't know what to think. I do know that I can no longer take a president who, when he sees images of huge piles of dead westerners, thinks the true victims are the muslims that might get taunted, and who thinks the underlying issues are gun control and/or climate change. He is a world-class horse's azz.

"Here's the rub, we can't control let alone defeat terrorism without Muslims at our side"

Here's the other rub. If "Muslims" aren't on our side now, what the f*ck are they waiting for? Who helped the Muslims in Afghanistan fight the invading Soviets? Who helped feed starving Muslims in Somalia? Who freed Muslims in Kuwait? In Afghanistan? In Iraq? The male shooter in California, what country gave him a good middle class job, at a company that threw him and his c*nt wife a baby shower last year?

This religion is based on Mohammed, who was a bloodthirsty, murderous, barbaric thief, someone the Japanese of WWII could really relate to. That's historical fact. He was the exact opposite of Jesus. Not surprising that the religion based on his life, might accurately be described as "satanic." Is there a Muslim country, on the planet at this time, that is at peace within its borders, and with its neighbors? How many Muslim countries are not committed to the destruction of Israel? How many religions stone their women, and mutilate their genitalia?

"Trump's remarks and your support for them are playing right into ISIS's recruiting strategy"

And if you hero listened to any number of military experts who begged him not to withdraw from Iraq, we would not be talking about ISIS today.

All this horebleep about "this plays into their hands". How has being open and hospitable working out, Spence? How has Obama's strategy of appeasement working so far? You tell us!

I don't like Trump. His remarks on Islam are not as idiotic to me, as they would have been last year. Especially compared to the strategy embraced by maybe the only person less up to the task of solving this problem, which is Obama. Maybe that's why I am willing to listen to Trump, because compared to Obama, he doesn't sound so un-hinged anymore.

If the issue is Muslim terrorism, and one guy wants to kick all Muslims out of the country, and the other guy's solution is to get me to drive an electric car, the first guy doesn't seem so stupid all of a sudden.

Brutally honest ....Great post
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[scottw]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ader-virginia/

this is great...Obama administration official goes to "moderate" Mosque to condemn Trump and his rhetoric...turns out the Mosque he is condemning Trump from has been investigated for all sorts of ties to Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood...and on...

Trump is riding a wave of folks who trust his foolishness more than they trust leftist stupidity and they are anxious to embrace someone who won't be cowed by political correctness...

it's the swing of the pendulum......payback for 8 years of the worst president in American history who, through the help of his supporters, has lowered the bar and sewn the seeds of discontent, rubbed old wounds raw(as any good community organizer is instructed to do)...using Spence logic...the democrats have created Trump and have played right into his hands

every presidential election season the dems and the media scream of the republicans and their candidates..."where's the red meat??"...here you go , a heaping helping...

I don't like Trump...but I can't say I don't and won't enjoy the hair pulling, hand wringing and cackling from the folks that gave us Obama

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ader-virginia/

this is great...Obama administration official goes to "moderate" Mosque to condemn Trump and his rhetoric...turns out the Mosque he is condemning Trump from has been investigated for all sorts of ties to Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood...and on...

Trump is riding a wave of folks who trust his foolishness more than they trust leftist stupidity and they are anxious to embrace someone who won't be cowed by political correctness...

it's the swing of the pendulum......payback for 8 years of the worst president in American history who, through the help of his supporters, has lowered the bar and sewn the seeds of discontent, rubbed old wounds raw(as any good community organizer is instructed to do)...using Spence logic...the democrats have created Trump and have played right into his hands

every presidential election season the dems and the media scream of the republicans and their candidates..."where's the red meat??"...here you go , a heaping helping...

I don't like Trump...but I can't say I don't and won't enjoy the hair pulling, hand wringing and cackling from the folks that gave us Obama

Very well put. This is totally the back swing of the pendulum.
The thing is.. There is no way that trump will be elected. That is unless the dumbing down of America has reached its final stages
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ader-virginia/

this is great...Obama administration official goes to "moderate" Mosque to condemn Trump and his rhetoric...turns out the Mosque he is condemning Trump from has been investigated for all sorts of ties to Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood...and on...

Trump is riding a wave of folks who trust his foolishness more than they trust leftist stupidity and they are anxious to embrace someone who won't be cowed by political correctness...

it's the swing of the pendulum......payback for 8 years of the worst president in American history who, through the help of his supporters, has lowered the bar and sewn the seeds of discontent, rubbed old wounds raw(as any good community organizer is instructed to do)...using Spence logic...the democrats have created Trump and have played right into his hands

every presidential election season the dems and the media scream of the republicans and their candidates..."where's the red meat??"...here you go , a heaping helping...

I don't like Trump...but I can't say I don't and won't enjoy the hair pulling, hand wringing and cackling from the folks that gave us Obama

I don't care for Trump either, but I am glad he's in the race (thus far), here's why...his presence on that stage is increasing debate audiences by millions and millions. Tons of people are watching on TV just to see what he might do. Some of those people, who only tuned in for Trump, will hear Carson, or Cruz, or Rubio, and think, "hey, that guy doesn't hate everybody like Obama and NBC claim. He sounds smart to me, I'll give him a listen". That's a good thing, as long as he doesn't stick around TOO long.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's a good thing, as long as he doesn't stick around TOO long.

And your argument above is very reasoned for getting the message out, but what mechanism is there to get rid of him from the race? The most inflammatory things he says INCREASE his poll numbers, even when false (i.e. 1000's in Jersey city, NJ)

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

The most inflammatory things he says INCREASE his poll numbers, even when false (i.e. 1000's in Jersey city, NJ)

Déjà vu from several years ago
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

And your argument above is very reasoned for getting the message out, but what mechanism is there to get rid of him from the race? The most inflammatory things he says INCREASE his poll numbers, even when false (i.e. 1000's in Jersey city, NJ)

Are his poll numbers at an all-time high?

The mechanism to get him out, i sthat 75% of GOP voters want someone else. Problem is, now, there are too many alternatives to Trump. As some drop out, the "non Trump vote" will consolidate around 1 or 2 candidates, he will falter and, eventually, fail. I hope.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Are his poll numbers at an all-time high?

The mechanism to get him out, i sthat 75% of GOP voters want someone else. Problem is, now, there are too many alternatives to Trump. As some drop out, the "non Trump vote" will consolidate around 1 or 2 candidates, he will falter and, eventually, fail. I hope.

We'll see.
It will be a game of chicken to see who drops out, and if it happens in time. All assuming Trump doesn't go third party.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

We'll see.
It will be a game of chicken to see who drops out, and if it happens in time. All assuming Trump doesn't go third party.

Howard Dean was in the hunt on your side, early on, as I recall. Like Trump, he's a little funny in the head. Though not as overtly bombastic as Trump, though not by all that much, either. When Dean was running, he said that if he won, he would consider having the FCC breakup Foxnews. That's a wee bit fascist.