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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac

Here's the sad part of it all. just about every mass shooting has happened where guns aren't allowed. You don't see them at gun shows,sporting shops,open carry places,veteran meeting halls,outdoor recreation area or places where someone is protecting carrying a firearm. as long as there are inocent victims available those looking for victims will have a target.Unless there's someone there carrying a firearm.Then the story changes.

In most mass shooting events over the past several decades there has been a personal connection or grievance that determined the location of the murders. I've never seen any evidence that killers look to gun free zones as easy targets...it's a myth.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by spence

In most mass shooting events over the past several decades there has been a personal connection or grievance that determined the location of the murders. I've never seen any evidence that killers look to gun free zones as easy targets...it's a myth.

Oh Bull S hit... you and your myth dismissals are getting old. Do you need direct evidence? Or can you show even one mass event where perp was at least matched with even number of armed people? They might be sick, but their primal instinct to survive will drive them to act out where there will be no armed resistance.

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Originally Posted by nightfighter

They might be sick, but their primal instinct to survive will drive them to act out where there will be no armed resistance.

Well, I believe the majority of mass shootings are murder suicides.

[nightfighter]

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Originally Posted by nightfighter

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That's not a deflection, I was offering a counterpoint to your argument.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, I believe the majority of mass shootings are murder suicides.

You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about
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If that the extent of your analysis?
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[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by spence

If that the extent of your analysis?
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No, it was his counterpoint to your argument.... And, I thought, a very good one. Yours, not so much. You have offered zero analysis yet ask everyone else for theirs.

Actually TDF simply asked if those were the incidents around which you had based your "belief", which I am sure you had not included in your study...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

If that the extent of your analysis?
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Is that the extent of your answer?
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You mean like San Bernadino, Ft Hood, the Washington Navy Yard, Aurora Colorado, Planned Parenthood, Chatanooga Tennessee, Charleston SC Church, and Arizona (Gabby Giffords)......those the ones you're talking about
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I didn't say all, I said the majority of...you're just cherry picking.

And in several of these you mention the killer clearly didn't have a plan to stay alive. Creating a situation where you're likely going to die is basically the same thing.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I didn't say all, I said the majority of...you're just cherry picking.

And in several of these you mention the killer clearly didn't have a plan to stay alive. Creating a situation where you're likely going to die is basically the same thing.

Maybe they didn't believe they were going to die.....considering they were gun free zones....
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Maybe they didn't believe they were going to die.....considering they were gun free zones....
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How did you suspend your logic to post that?