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03-04-2016, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's just like the IRS investigation, Lerner pleads the fifth and the investigation showed nothing illegal.
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she should be in jail too......
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03-04-2016, 09:14 AM
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she should be in jail too......
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Did she even get fired? Or is harassing those who disagree with Obama, cause for promotion?
This, from the guy who doesn't see red states or blue states. Quite the uniter.
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03-04-2016, 09:19 AM
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Did she even get fired? Or is harassing those who disagree with Obama, cause for promotion?
This, from the guy who doesn't see red states or blue states. Quite the uniter.
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don't worry....Trump will have all of this at his disposal very soon 
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03-04-2016, 10:11 AM
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don't worry....Trump will have all of this at his disposal very soon 
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I just learned that if Trump goes to the convention as the leading delegate-getter (a good chance), but that he has less than 50% o fthe total delegates (also a good chance), they delegates can do what they want. I didn't know that.
I am a bit torn. I don't like the idea of the power-brokers un-doing what the voters do. But I also believe that if the "leader" has less than 50% of th etotal, then you take the top 2 and have a run off. I don't like the idea of anyone winning anything, if they didn't get 50% of the total. But I really, really don't want it to be Trump.
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03-04-2016, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I just learned that if Trump goes to the convention as the leading delegate-getter (a good chance), but that he has less than 50% o fthe total delegates (also a good chance), they delegates can do what they want. I didn't know that.
I am a bit torn. I don't like the idea of the power-brokers un-doing what the voters do. But I also believe that if the "leader" has less than 50% of th etotal, then you take the top 2 and have a run off. I don't like the idea of anyone winning anything, if they didn't get 50% of the total. But I really, really don't want it to be Trump.
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And just the other day you were aghast that the Dem super delegates could vote for who they wanted.
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03-04-2016, 02:55 PM
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And just the other day you were aghast that the Dem super delegates could vote for who they wanted.
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As I said, I am torn. I hate to be hypocritical, sometimes you gotta put your money where your mouth is. But I have always believed, that if you didn't get 50% of the vote, you didn't win the election. I believe that, even when it benefits my side. If Trump is in first, but has 40% of teh delegates, and he doesn't get the nomination, that's not the same thing as truly winning the primaries (with more than 50%) and having it taken from you. I gues I wish that i fno one wins 50%, that they'd have a runoff with the top 2.
Your superdelegates aren't going to let Bernie get the nomination, even if he has mor ethan 50% of teh pledged delegates. We will never know I guess, as it's not likely.
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03-04-2016, 09:53 AM
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she should be in jail too......
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Funny, the DOJ and FBI "found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution."
But she should be in jail. Right.
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03-04-2016, 09:59 AM
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Funny, the DOJ and FBI "found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution."
But she should be in jail. Right.
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yup
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03-04-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Funny, the DOJ and FBI "found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution."
But she should be in jail. Right.
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No she deserves a promotion, like Susan Rice .
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03-04-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Funny, the DOJ and FBI "found no evidence that any IRS official acted based on political, discriminatory, corrupt, or other inappropriate motives that would support a criminal prosecution."
But she should be in jail. Right.
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Which means there is no criminal law to prevent an administration from using the IRS as a club against the other side (possibly because it never occurred to anyone, that an adiministration would have the audacity to attempt that). That she didn't break any criminal laws, doesn't mean what she did wasn't immoral (sorry about all the negatives there, you get the drift).
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03-04-2016, 10:50 AM
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Which means there is no criminal law to prevent an administration from using the IRS as a club against the other side (possibly because it never occurred to anyone, that an adiministration would have the audacity to attempt that). That she didn't break any criminal laws, doesn't mean what she did wasn't immoral (sorry about all the negatives there, you get the drift).
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Read the finding again. Actually lift a finger and read the whole report.
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03-04-2016, 02:56 PM
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Read the finding again. Actually lift a finger and read the whole report.
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I read your quote. The FBI said no evidence of a crime. It's not their job to saw whether or not it was immoral.
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03-04-2016, 05:12 PM
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I read your quote. The FBI said no evidence of a crime. It's not their job to saw whether or not it was immoral.
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If their behavior was immoral it likely would have been illegal. Poor management oversight isn't immoral...
Sometimes I wonder if you really know much of anything about the issues you're most outraged by.
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03-04-2016, 06:09 PM
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If their behavior was immoral it likely would have been illegal. Poor management oversight isn't immoral...
Sometimes I wonder if you really know much of anything about the issues you're most outraged by.
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"Poor management oversight" would not look good on a resume if you were applying for President of the United States .
Funny the investigations continue even though " it's been done to death " .
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03-04-2016, 08:49 PM
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If their behavior was immoral it likely would have been illegal. Poor management oversight isn't immoral...
Sometimes I wonder if you really know much of anything about the issues you're most outraged by.
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Look up "illegal" and "immoral" in the dictionary. They are not synonyms. You are coming completely un-glued, when you have reason to be gloating. My side is arguing over Trump's you-know-what, and you are insisting Hilary didn't lie about the sniper, and that immoral isn't a lot more broad than committing a federal offense.
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