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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Jim , I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive . It seams you have fallen for the Romney / media talking points . What he says is off the cuff , without script band almost always portrayed out of context . You're too bright to fall for that and certainly able to read between the lines . It's refreshing to have that, as even Megyn Kelly has said . He is a master at dominating the air waves . I believe he just might be a bit smarter then you give him credit for .
He shouldn't even be used in the same post as an Al Sharpton.
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"I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive"

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

I could care less about what 'offends' the liberals who live in the upper west side of Manhattan or Hollywood, bit those are the things that offend me.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

Couldn't agree more. The McCain comment was over the top. Making fun of a person's looks is great lesson to teach your kids.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Couldn't agree more. The McCain comment was over the top. Making fun of a person's looks is great lesson to teach your kids.

Yet it doesn't bother you one bit when Hilary says that because I am anti-abortion, I therefore don't care about women's health.

I have never, not once, ever, heard a liberal say "I respect that pro-life people have empathy for the baby. However, I believe that empathy is mis-placed for the following reasons..."

They never, ever do that. Because if the issue is debated honestly like that, my side suddenly looks a lot less repugnant, and liberals can't deal with that, even if it's the truth.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"I don't find what Trymp says as that offensive"

He said he didn't respect John McCain because he was captured, and he made fun of Carly Fiorina's looks. I think I have pretty thick skin, but I don't know how anyone can fail to be deeply offended by that.

I could care less about what 'offends' the liberals who live in the upper west side of Manhattan or Hollywood, bit those are the things that offend me.

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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Trump is certainly a con artist.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'll agree he does occasionally say some pretty outlandish things , everyone does . You just called him a con artist , nice talking point , but you have no evidence that this is a con . How is that so much different .
I grew up in a large Irish family , we always kid each other and I can't ever remember anyone being upset . People are too sensitive now a days , it creates all kinda stress and hate .
Lighten up
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"everyone does"

Not everyone could say that John McCain's capture means he doesn't deserve respect. 99% of Americans would be incapable of saying that out loud.

When he hits back at people who have it coming, I genuinely respect it.

Finally, maybe my biggest issue with him, is this...I have no way of knowing what he really believes, about some issues I care deeply about. A few years ago, his stated posiitons were a lot more aligned with the liberal wing of the Democratic party, than the GOP. Maybe he genuinely saw the light.

Also, even if I loved everything about him, I am objective enough to know that his nomination could mean we hand the Oval Office, and far worse the Congress, back to the Democrats. I'd rather win with my second choice, then get clobbered with my first choice.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Finally, maybe my biggest issue with him, is this...I have no way of knowing what he really believes, about some issues I care deeply about. A few years ago, his stated posiitons were a lot more aligned with the liberal wing of the Democratic party, than the GOP. Maybe he genuinely saw the light.

It's cold calculation. Trump is intentionally scrambling things up in an attempt to create a new voting block where he's the only candidate.

We can call it the "Reality Tea Vee Party"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Trump is intentionally scrambling things up in an attempt to create a new voting block where he's the only candidate.

We can call it the "Reality Tea Vee Party"

Would be more accurate to call it "page 1 of the Democratic playbook". Splinter society into as many fragmented "victim" groups as possible, convince said victims that the GOP is to blame for all of their problems, and hope it adds up to 51% of the electorate.

If Mexicans ever start voting for the GOP, watch how fast the Dems change their tune on immigration. They'll build a one-way, high speed train for these people that will take them to the southern tip of South America.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"everyone does"

Not everyone could say that John McCain's capture means he doesn't deserve respect. 99% of Americans would be incapable of saying that out loud.

When he hits back at people who have it coming, I genuinely respect it.

Finally, maybe my biggest issue with him, is this...I have no way of knowing what he really believes, about some issues I care deeply about. A few years ago, his stated posiitons were a lot more aligned with the liberal wing of the Democratic party, than the GOP. Maybe he genuinely saw the light.

Also, even if I loved everything about him, I am objective enough to know that his nomination could mean we hand the Oval Office, and far worse the Congress, back to the Democrats. I'd rather win with my second choice, then get clobbered with my first choice.

I'm not sure we know the position of any of them . They all muddle there position to cater to the crowd . I don't think he can be accused of the pandering and empty promises the others are guilty of . You have to take some of his words as symbolic . He's not outright lying and I'm starting to believe his ego will prevent him from being dishonest . The others make a living at being dishonest .
When it comes down to him or Hillary you simple have no choice .
After today it's over
Sorry Nebe , Bernie is a done too
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

I'm not sure we know the position of any of them . They all muddle there position to cater to the crowd . I don't think he can be accused of the pandering and empty promises the others are guilty of . You have to take some of his words as symbolic . He's not outright lying and I'm starting to believe his ego will prevent him from being dishonest . The others make a living at being dishonest .
When it comes down to him or Hillary you simple have no choice .
After today it's over
Sorry Nebe , Bernie is a done too
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Find me a video of Ted Cruz zaying he's pro-abortion.

If Trump is the nominee, i will plug my nose and vote for him against Hilary. But I won't be as proud to do it as I was in 08 or 12, not even close.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Find me a video of Ted Cruz zaying he's pro-abortion.

If Trump is the nominee, i will plug my nose and vote for him against Hilary. But I won't be as proud to do it as I was in 08 or 12, not even close.

I changed my own position on abortion so I can relate .
Cruz is my favorite but I don't think he can beat Trump in the primary
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