Cuba and Obama The Weak

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Watch Obama's lecture today. We went from almost no relations to the sitting POTUS speaking publicly in Cuba that they have same rights to information and free speech as we do...This wouldn't be happening if something wasn't in the works...

Make sure you close the shades
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

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Groundbreaking stuff here. You should follow more closely.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Groundbreaking stuff here. You should follow more closely.

Why groundbreaking? We won't get anything out of it, hopefully this gives them a nudge in the right direction.

I have zero issues with normalizing relations with them, as long as the people there get a bit more freedom. My point Spence, and I am right, is that they have only one thing we could demand, and it costs them NOTHING to give her to us. So why can't he, just one time, act from a position of strength and tell them they they can stay in the dark until they decide to stop harboring terrorists. Do you know anything about this case? I'm not speculating here, the woman was convicted.

He's such a puss...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Why groundbreaking? We won't get anything out of it, hopefully this gives them a nudge in the right direction.

Sweet Jesus Jim, the opportunity to free 12 million people from the chains of communism at no cost and we get nothing from it?

I think Reagan just rolled in his grave.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Sweet Jesus Jim, the opportunity to free 12 million people from the chains of communism at no cost and we get nothing from it?

I think Reagan just rolled in his grave.

You reside in a wonderful place my friend .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

You reside in a wonderful place my friend .
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And there he is!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sweet Jesus Jim, the opportunity to free 12 million people from the chains of communism at no cost and we get nothing from it?

I think Reagan just rolled in his grave.

well...if Obama can lower the ocean levels, I guess freeing Cuba from the bonds of Communism should be a breeze.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

well...if Obama can lower the ocean levels, I guess freeing Cuba from the bonds of Communism should be a breeze.....

All it takes is the wave of his hand.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sweet Jesus Jim, the opportunity to free 12 million people from the chains of communism at no cost and we get nothing from it?

I think Reagan just rolled in his grave.

When that happens, and that's a long way off, THAT will be groundbreaking. And of course, I sincerely hop ethat happens. And I give Obama credit for trying to get the ball rolling, I do.

But can you answer a simple question? What would be the downside if he told Castro, "nohting happens until we get this cop killer back in our custody. If you want to be embraced by the civilized nations, you need to stop acting uncivilized, and if you want OUR help in coming out of the dark, you can show you good faith by giving us this terroriist back. If you want us to treat you like an ally, you cannot provide refuge to those who murder our police officers."

Spence, how does that derail what he's trying to do?

I'm not saying ignore the 'big picture'. I just don't get why trying to make progress for Cubans, and getting this terrorist back, are mutually exclusive. If Cuba is asking for help, that puts us in a uniquely strong position from which to negotiate her return.But that requires a modicum of balls, and a modicum of giving a sh*t about the dead cop's family. Naturallly, the disciple of Reverand Wright and Bill Ayers isn't concerned when a black radical executes a white police officer. If it was the other way around, perhaps then he would give a rat's you-know-what.