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03-29-2016, 04:43 PM
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Hillary for prison 2016
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http://news.yahoo.com/second-judge-s...195003177.html
Referring to the State Department, Clinton and Clinton's aides, he said there had been "constantly shifting admissions by the Government and the former government officials." Spokesmen for Clinton did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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04-03-2016, 10:24 AM
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I wonder why the FBI has requested the State department to stop it's investigation. Could it be to protect evidence or part of a cover up?
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04-03-2016, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
I wonder why the FBI has requested the State department to stop it's investigation. Could it be to protect evidence or part of a cover up?
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No, it's just their standard process to slot independent investigations until after the FBI is complete.
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04-03-2016, 10:32 AM
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No, it's just their standard process to slot independent investigations until after the FBI is complete.
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I see how you left out investigation after FBI..LOL
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04-03-2016, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
I see how you left out investigation after FBI..LOL
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Already said investigation before, didn't need to be redundant.
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04-04-2016, 04:57 AM
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i relish seeing her in jail bird orange
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04-04-2016, 05:23 AM
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lying pos
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04-04-2016, 07:05 AM
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I was just reading that she is polling nearly as poorly among women as the Trumpster is...
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04-04-2016, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Already said investigation before, didn't need to be redundant.
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not investigation..."witch hunt"....seriously
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04-04-2016, 07:10 AM
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currently working for the government and if I had even 1 of her emails, especially the TS and above, I would be writing this from my cell......
There is NO excuse for this, but with her position, just like it has happened in the recent past, she will get prosecuted, slapped on the wrist or pardoned.
It is amazing that both parties have decided to put forth such crappy candidates.
It's like trying to choose a restaurant and realizing that all of the restaurants are taco bell. You can choose greasy tacos or greasy burritos, but no matter what you choose you will have the craps for 4 years........
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04-04-2016, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool Beans
It is amazing that both parties have decided to put forth such crappy candidates.
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Best post I've read in a while here, including my own! It is unbelievable.
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04-04-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool Beans
currently working for the government and if I had even 1 of her emails, especially the TS and above, I would be writing this from my cell......
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This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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04-04-2016, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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Why don't you tell that to the FBI. How in the world does the government function without your expertise. Not that you will show you are unbiased but just for Chita and giggles is there an FBI investigation or not. I don't think your brain will allow you to type the words.......FBI investigating Hilary.
3 words..
. can you bring yourself to put those words together or not.
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04-04-2016, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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And that seems fair to me.
However, I believe it has been argued that some of the emails were flagged as classified, then had the flags removed, before she sent them to her personal server. From what I understand, which isn't a lot, she couldn't send emails flagged as TS, to her personal email from her work account...unless the flag was removed before it was sent.
We'll see.
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04-04-2016, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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04-04-2016, 09:02 AM
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What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.
A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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04-04-2016, 09:12 AM
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What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.
A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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That's what I was trying to get at.
So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.
The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.
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04-04-2016, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.
A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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Absolutely correct....
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04-04-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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All Top Secret and above information is classified upon creation. There is no time that it is not classified as such. It can only be read or accessed inside of secured locations on secured systems of that level. You can't even discus these items outside of secured and approved locations. There is no wiggle room.
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04-04-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That's what I was trying to get at.
So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.
The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.
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Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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04-04-2016, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.
A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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I have yet to see any reporting that suggests this happened.
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04-04-2016, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood
Why don't you tell that to the FBI. How in the world does the government function without your expertise. Not that you will show you are unbiased but just for Chita and giggles is there an FBI investigation or not. I don't think your brain will allow you to type the words.......FBI investigating Hilary.
3 words..
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The FBI is investigating handling of information, not the person.
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04-04-2016, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool Beans
All Top Secret and above information is classified upon creation. There is no time that it is not classified as such. It can only be read or accessed inside of secured locations on secured systems of that level. You can't even discus these items outside of secured and approved locations. There is no wiggle room.
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Not if it's classified retroactively.
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04-04-2016, 11:33 AM
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This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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For what?
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04-04-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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04-04-2016, 12:25 PM
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Not if it's classified retroactively.
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All Top Secret and above information is classified UPON CREATION.
Never mind, I give up Spence, you win!
Somehow she innocently imagined up Top Secret information in her pretty little head and then sent it on her personal computer.
When Hillary poops it smells like roses and peppermint!
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04-04-2016, 01:47 PM
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-04-2016, 03:20 PM
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This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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No, the only reason is this one: Clinton
Had it been anyone else, the legal proceedings would be underway.
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04-04-2016, 03:29 PM
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All Top Secret and above information is classified UPON CREATION.
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Not true.
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04-04-2016, 03:31 PM
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.
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No evidence of this Jim.
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