Hillary for prison 2016

[ecduzitgood]

Lol
http://news.yahoo.com/second-judge-s...195003177.html
Referring to the State Department, Clinton and Clinton's aides, he said there had been "constantly shifting admissions by the Government and the former government officials." Spokesmen for Clinton did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

[ecduzitgood]

I wonder why the FBI has requested the State department to stop it's investigation. Could it be to protect evidence or part of a cover up?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I wonder why the FBI has requested the State department to stop it's investigation. Could it be to protect evidence or part of a cover up?
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No, it's just their standard process to slot independent investigations until after the FBI is complete.
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[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

No, it's just their standard process to slot independent investigations until after the FBI is complete.
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I see how you left out investigation after FBI..LOL
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I see how you left out investigation after FBI..LOL
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Already said investigation before, didn't need to be redundant.
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[Raven]

i relish seeing her in jail bird orange

[Raider Ronnie]

lying pos

[scottw]

I was just reading that she is polling nearly as poorly among women as the Trumpster is...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Already said investigation before, didn't need to be redundant.
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not investigation..."witch hunt"....seriously

[Cool Beans]

currently working for the government and if I had even 1 of her emails, especially the TS and above, I would be writing this from my cell......

There is NO excuse for this, but with her position, just like it has happened in the recent past, she will get prosecuted, slapped on the wrist or pardoned.

It is amazing that both parties have decided to put forth such crappy candidates.

It's like trying to choose a restaurant and realizing that all of the restaurants are taco bell. You can choose greasy tacos or greasy burritos, but no matter what you choose you will have the craps for 4 years........

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

It is amazing that both parties have decided to put forth such crappy candidates.

.......

Best post I've read in a while here, including my own! It is unbelievable.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

currently working for the government and if I had even 1 of her emails, especially the TS and above, I would be writing this from my cell......

This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by spence

This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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Why don't you tell that to the FBI. How in the world does the government function without your expertise. Not that you will show you are unbiased but just for Chita and giggles is there an FBI investigation or not. I don't think your brain will allow you to type the words.......FBI investigating Hilary.
3 words..
. can you bring yourself to put those words together or not.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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And that seems fair to me.

However, I believe it has been argued that some of the emails were flagged as classified, then had the flags removed, before she sent them to her personal server. From what I understand, which isn't a lot, she couldn't send emails flagged as TS, to her personal email from her work account...unless the flag was removed before it was sent.

We'll see.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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That's what I was trying to get at.

So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.

The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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Absolutely correct....

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by spence

This is not true. Under US law you can not be prosecuted for mishandling information retroactively classified.
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All Top Secret and above information is classified upon creation. There is no time that it is not classified as such. It can only be read or accessed inside of secured locations on secured systems of that level. You can't even discus these items outside of secured and approved locations. There is no wiggle room.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

That's what I was trying to get at.

So every email on her server was necessarily "un-classified" at the time it was sent. Some were retroactively classified, and I don't know that you can argue she committed a crime regarding these.

The other possibility, as you suggested, is that there were some emails that were flagged, but had the flagged removed, so the emails could be forwarded to her server. If someone removed the classification flags just so they could then be sent to her server, that person likely committed a crime. I imagine that's part of the investigation thingy that is is not looking at Hilary.

Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

What people keep forgetting is that if an email is labeled secret it stays on a network that holds that classification. In order for it to wind up on a non classified system it actually has to be physically copied to some sort of removable media and brought over to a non classified system so it could be emailed out.

A whole lot of intent to dis-regard and bypass security. It's not just an "Oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard" moment.
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I have yet to see any reporting that suggests this happened.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Why don't you tell that to the FBI. How in the world does the government function without your expertise. Not that you will show you are unbiased but just for Chita and giggles is there an FBI investigation or not. I don't think your brain will allow you to type the words.......FBI investigating Hilary.
3 words..
. can you bring yourself to put those words together or not.
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The FBI is investigating handling of information, not the person.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

All Top Secret and above information is classified upon creation. There is no time that it is not classified as such. It can only be read or accessed inside of secured locations on secured systems of that level. You can't even discus these items outside of secured and approved locations. There is no wiggle room.

Not if it's classified retroactively.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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For what?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda like that but Even if the classification label is removed , it still can't be forwarded to an unsecure system because there is no physical connection between the two. You literally have to move it yourself onto the unsecure network so you can email it....via CD or Memory stick or something comparable.
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So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by spence

Not if it's classified retroactively.
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All Top Secret and above information is classified UPON CREATION.

Never mind, I give up Spence, you win!

Somehow she innocently imagined up Top Secret information in her pretty little head and then sent it on her personal computer.

When Hillary poops it smells like roses and peppermint!

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This is the only reason she hasn't been prosecuted already.
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No, the only reason is this one: Clinton

Had it been anyone else, the legal proceedings would be underway.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

All Top Secret and above information is classified UPON CREATION.

Not true.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it requires one more act of commission, quite possibly a criminal act of commission. Gotcha.

No evidence of this Jim.
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