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With the kids getting bigger we have decided to get a pool this summer. 
 
  
 
I have done all the research i possibly could over the winter for decking materials, but am still torn 
 
  
 
What have you used 
 
  
 
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			04-04-2016, 03:28 PM
			
			
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		 Around an above ground pool? 
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			04-04-2016, 03:56 PM
			
			
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		 sorry 
 
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on the ground pool.(half buried) 
 
sitting on ledge....can't go in the ground 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Composite if it is in the budget.  PT will dry, check, and split. Nature of the beast. Unless you want to be a slave to recoating every year. If you go with composite, you will never wish you had gone with PT instead. 
 
I have installed most of them. Azek, Trex, Timbertec.  Buy through a lumberyard, NOT through a box store or one of those discount places.... 
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2016, 05:15 PM
			
			
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		 dont go crazy depending on the age of your children you might get 10 years . after that our kids never used it.. once in High school .. future proof it  I went with trex just on the deck and stairs the rest PT big enough for 2 chairs and the ladder 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Problem ive found with plastics is they do get hot.   
PT sux.  Even worse is when u use the new coating paints on them.  That stuff gets so hot u could fry an egg on it 
There is a new hollow/ honeycomb composite material that doesnt heat up like traditional azak.  Because its hollow it transfers heat but is supposed to be just as strong and durable as traditional composites. I forget name but will ask someone that knows and let u know as a viable option.   
Get ready to choke on cost of composite vs PT. 
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 My in ground was put in with a yard full of ledge....3 days with a ram ho solved that issue. Pools are awesome.
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			04-05-2016, 06:47 AM
			
			
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		 Go composite 
Buy once,cry once 
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			04-05-2016, 09:23 AM
			
			
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		composite is the only way to go....I prefer Fiberon decking, my deck is 16 years old, still looks new....non skid when it rains...easy maintenance I schwab the deck once a year in the spring with water and bleach let it dry and will look brand new....recommend pressure treated joist....my neighbor used brazilian hard decking has replaced and patched a few times....  
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		 Don't forget the insurance impact. 
 
Will the pool be fenced in? 
Are there little kids in the area? 
What kind of wildlife do you get on a regular basis? 
 
You'd be surprised who and what will try to make their way into a pool on a hot summer day/night! 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I dont think you can legally have a pool without a fence. It does add up in a hurry with fencing,patio,cabana et al. I will say that my pool paid us back in smiles in just a couple years! Good move Jim 
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		 How big a deck? 
 
PT sucks and Trex is a joke of a composite.Go with ipe if you can afford it or go with mahogany.All depends on the size of the deck and what you can afford. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				I dont think you can legally have a pool without a fence. It does add up in a hurry with fencing,patio,cabana et al. I will say that my pool paid us back in smiles in just a couple years! Good move Jim 
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 Varies by code but in most areas I believe you do.
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PT sucks and Trex is a joke of a composite.Go with ipe if you can afford it or go with mahogany.All depends on the size of the deck and what you can afford. 
			
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		 I think composite looks a lot nicer today than it did when trex first came out. I have a mahogany deck and it requires a decent amount of maintenance. Unless you were trying to match existing wood I'd use composite and not have to worry about sealing, checking, splinters etc... 
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				I think composite looks a lot nicer today than it did when trex first came out. I have a mahogany deck and it requires a decent amount of maintenance. Unless you were trying to match existing wood I'd use composite and not have to worry about sealing, checking, splinters etc... 
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 Couldn't agree more. Go with a composite and  a blind fastener system .
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				Composite if it is in the budget.  PT will dry, check, and split. Nature of the beast. Unless you want to be a slave to recoating every year. If you go with composite, you will never wish you had gone with PT instead. 
 
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 What Ross said. I re-did my big deck with Azek and never regretted it. PT will last 10 years at best and you will start with cracks after 4 or 5. You can use the treatments that fills in the cracks but it doesn't last. I have another smaller deck (10 x 12) on the back of the house that is PT and 11 years old. I am going to re-deck this spring (whenever that it) with Azek. 
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		 I did mine with Cedar last year....a little pricier then PT but significantly cheaper than composite. Naturally water resistant and doesn't split.  
 
I get a lot of sun on my deck so I can walk barefoot on the cedar where the composite gets extremely hot 
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		 Jim, I did a nice big deck last year with the 5/4x6 STK white cedar. STK is Select Tight Knots. Nice alternative if you like wood. As always, attention to framing detail will set up a great finish. 
		
		
		
		
		
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