Hillary for prison 2016

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This might be the only time I have seen him flip flop on something.
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Wasn't it last week he said Hillary is not qualified and this week he said of course she is qualified?
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[Nebe]

he did but It was based on a reaction to a piece of bad reporting.
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[ecduzitgood]

Bad reporting or bad ice cube, at this point what does it matter
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[Nebe]

I would imagine it must be totally exhausting to campaign non stop for about a year to get the nomination. I'd imagine one would have a few slip ups along the way...
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I would imagine it must be totally exhausting to campaign non stop for about a year to get the nomination. I'd imagine one would have a few slip ups along the way...
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you are talking about Trump...right?

[Nebe]

Who? Never heard of him
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

he did but It was based on a reaction to a piece of bad reporting.
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No it wasn't, it was a stump speech where he said she was unqualified because of her policy positions...it was absurd. He's cracking big time.

Did you see he won Wyoming and picked up a SINGLE pledged delegate

[Nebe]

Do you know what the pledged delegates did when Obama came from behind and won the popular vote?
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I would imagine it must be totally exhausting to campaign non stop for about a year to get the nomination. I'd imagine one would have a few slip ups along the way...
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Then how's he going to handle running the country non-stop for four years.....slip ups can have some devastating consequences
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Then how's he going to handle running the country non-stop for four years.....slip ups can have some devastating consequences
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We will find out in a few years
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Do you know what the pledged delegates did when Obama came from behind and won the popular vote?
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Different dynamics. The race was already much closer at this time and Obama had more appeal in states that will likely go Clinton.

Sanders will make it interesting but these "wins" he's piling up aren't really building the kinds of numbers he needs.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Different dynamics. The race was already much closer at this time and Obama had more appeal in states that will likely go Clinton.

Sanders will make it interesting but these "wins" he's piling up aren't really building the kinds of numbers he needs.
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Agreed.

Question - will the Bernie supporters be pissed that he lost a rigged game and stay home? Or will they support Hilary?

Fascinating...both parties could be in a place where huge numbers of voters feel that the system was rigged against their candidate. Who knows what effect that will have?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed.

Question - will the Bernie supporters be pissed that he lost a rigged game and stay home? Or will they support Hilary?

Fascinating...both parties could be in a place where huge numbers of voters feel that the system was rigged against their candidate. Who knows what effect that will have?

I think it will have an impact but likely would favor Clinton. Aside from Nebe, most of the groundswell Sanders has been able to create will be well motivated to ensure Trump isn't elected. If somehow a moderate Repub could get the nomination (not likely) it could be different.

Trump's base is increasingly getting frustrated with their candidate and Trump's negatives are so low I just don't see how he can really compete in the general election.

[ecduzitgood]

I wouldn't discount how Bill has upset the African Americans recently. Hillary is at 1287 and Bernie is at 1037 so it is closer than it is being reported to be.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I wouldn't discount how Bill has upset the African Americans recently. Hillary is at 1287 and Bernie is at 1037 so it is closer than it is being reported to be.
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Not really, at this point in 2008 Obama was taking the lead in super delegates, right now Clinton has well over 400 to Sanders 39. They aren't all just going to flip because Nebe stroked his magic pony.

I also wouldn't take a single heckler incident like it's going to push off black voters. Bill didn't handle it well but he was also totally right.

[ecduzitgood]

I think once the Democratic candidate faces a Republican candidate the public will finally get to see the dirty laundry of the Democratic candidate.
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[ecduzitgood]

Obama just came out and said Hillary's emails were no security risk....hmm does he know the head of the FBI keeps a post it note on the camera lens on his laptop fearing it could be hacked and someone may see him furiously shredding papers?
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[Fly Rod]

And obama said, This is somebody who has served her country for four years as secretary of state,and did nothing wrong and did an outstanding job.".....apparently he forgot about Petreus mishandling of classified information....he spent a life time serving his country...same,same

And spence will come to her rescue

[The Dad Fisherman]

I got two growlers of beer riding on Hillary being the next president.....if she wins I'll need to drink heavily.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I got two growlers of beer riding on Hillary being the next president.....if she wins I'll need to drink heavily.
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You'll need more than 2 growlers. I suggest a MMJ card and cancel cable for 4 years.
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[JohnR]

Ohhh - this could be fun - two contested and horrible conventions - hard to say who will have more disaffected voters

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You'll need more than 2 growlers. I suggest a MMJ card and cancel cable for 4 years.
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Who says I'm stopping after two....

At least the first two will be free....kinda like Bernie gave them to me
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

And obama said, This is somebody who has served her country for four years as secretary of state,and did nothing wrong and did an outstanding job.".....apparently he forgot about Petreus mishandling of classified information....he spent a life time serving his country...same,same

And spence will come to her rescue

Petraeus intentionally mishandled previously classified information and then lied about it. It's a completely different situation.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Ignorance of the law is no excuse...

And pretending that you use a cloth to wipe a hard drive is a lame excuse....
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[Nebe]

What was her original excuse for this server anyway? Seems to me that having a private server is just a digital way of being able to burn your mail before an investigation.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Ignorance of the law is no excuse...

And pretending that you use a cloth to wipe a hard drive is a lame excuse....
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According to the DOJ her server wasn't illegal. Still have yet to see any laws broken with mishandling of information either.

Just as important, intent makes a huge difference in taking legal action.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Nebe

What was her original excuse for this server anyway? Seems to me that having a private server is just a digital way of being able to burn your mail before an investigation.
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She had gotten used to having everything on a single Blackberry, they requested a secure Blackberry like POTUS has which for some reason which I still can't comprehend was denied so she just used the server they already had set up for non-confidential work email.

The idea that she would do this for some nefarious reason doesn't hold much water. You're communicating with people on government systems so anything work related is going to be out there. If you really wanted to hide something you'd never mix the two either.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The idea that she would do this for some nefarious reason doesn't hold much water.

ne·far·i·ous
nəˈferēəs/
adjective
(typically of an action or activity) wicked or criminal. = Hillary Clinton

[The Dad Fisherman]

I keep saying this....she was SecState....every piece of communication she received should be treated, at the very least, as unclassified but sensitive. Even a lunch date with someone shows the movement of the 5th highest official in the United States. Total disregard on her part for securing her communications

So she's either to big of a liar to be president or to stupid to be president.....it's one or the other.
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[Nebe]

She's untouchable. It's as simple as that. If she was lower on the totem pole she would have bee reprimanded. If she was even lower she would have been fired. And if she was even lower she would go to jail. Imagine if a super low ranking federal employee had a private server.
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