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04-18-2016, 03:36 PM
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US student escorted off plane 'for speaking Arabic'
http://www.bbc.com/news/36075317
another example of Fear... we are not far from if you look like your from the middle east.. dont leave your house
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04-18-2016, 07:34 PM
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Sounds like you're afraid of something "we are not far from".
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04-18-2016, 08:19 PM
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Amazing.
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04-18-2016, 10:58 PM
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I hate foreign speak,it should be illegal on planes.
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04-19-2016, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I hate foreign speak,it should be illegal on planes.
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Agree, I was on an Air Berlin flight to Frankfurt last spring and the people jabbering away in English was driving me nuts.
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04-19-2016, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Agree, I was on an Air Berlin flight to Frankfurt last spring and the people jabbering away in English was driving me nuts.
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English is not really a foreign language in Germany. English is considered an international language in many nations.
Just kidding . . . sort of . . . like Sea dangles and you did . . . sort of.
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04-19-2016, 08:42 AM
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I'm willing to bet there is more to the story then is being reported . I'm sure there has been plenty of people speaking in Arabic on SW airlines without belong removed from the plane. He might have just been a punk about it .
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04-19-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
I'm willing to bet there is more to the story then is being reported . I'm sure there has been plenty of people speaking in Arabic on SW airlines without belong removed from the plane. He might have just been a punk about it .
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A few years ago I was waiting to board my flight and a young guy of Middle Eastern looking descent found a spot away from everyone, dropped down and quickly did his prayers. The woman next to me was terrified and asked if we should report it.
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04-19-2016, 08:53 AM
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fear leads to greater fear.
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04-19-2016, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
A few years ago I was waiting to board my flight and a young guy of Middle Eastern looking descent found a spot away from everyone, dropped down and quickly did his prayers. The woman next to me was terrified and asked if we should report it.
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Curious who you think created this fear ? Wasn't that the purpose of terrorism ? So you blame trump ?
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04-19-2016, 09:12 AM
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Curious who you think created this fear ? Wasn't that the purpose of terrorism ? So you blame trump ?
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I'd say the media has done a bang up job of fertilizing the fear to the point of hysteria
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04-19-2016, 09:14 AM
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I'd say the media has done a bang up job of fertilizing the fear to the point of hysteria
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That and the explosions / crashed planes / mass gun killings and threats of more to come .
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04-19-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Agree, I was on an Air Berlin flight to Frankfurt last spring and the people jabbering away in English was driving me nuts.
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Ah Jeff, so sophisticated and international at that. Have your little darlings started their Chinese lessons yet?
Thank you for sharing your worldly adventure with us.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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04-19-2016, 09:45 AM
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It's like pit bulls , most of them are great dogs , but if I see one running down the street , I approach cautiously . 👍🏻
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04-19-2016, 11:09 AM
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If anyone cares, Southwest Airlines is saying that the man was accused of making threatening statements. It was what he said, not the language with which he said it, that got him kicked off.
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04-19-2016, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
I'd say the media has done a bang up job of fertilizing the fear to the point of hysteria
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So when these barbarians slaughter innocent people, use pregnant women and adults with Downs Syndrome as suicide bombers, and stone their women to death...the media shouldn't report it, so that we can keep 'fear' in check.
Nebe, I'd like to ask you a question that I asked Spence 5 times, and as far s I know, he never tried responding...here goes...I give someone you love a box of 100 chocolates. I tell you that one of them is poison, and will kill whoever eats it. How many do you let your loved one eat, before you take the box away and throw it in the garbage? Can you answer that honestly? For me, the answer is "zero", and I bet it is for you, too. But I have asked that question to at least 50 smart liberals, and every one of them struggles with it. They don't like being asked that, not at all.
Because it's estimated that at least 1% of the Muslims in the world, support the jihad. 1% is a small percentage. But 1% of 2 billion Muslims, is 20 million sociopaths. We can pretend that's not true, or we can deal with it.
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04-19-2016, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If anyone cares, Southwest Airlines is saying that the man was accused of making threatening statements. It was what he said, not the language with which he said it, that got him kicked off.
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Exactly , some here would like to fabricate hate , blame it on fabricated fear and stand up for those those victims of fabricated hate .
It makes them feel superior and smarter .
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04-19-2016, 11:53 AM
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"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Those that take rumors as fact without checking for facts are doomed to spread the same rumors without facts.
(along the lines of how "urban legends" get started.
You hear the "story", fail to check the facts, and pass the "story" on to others without any facts to back it up.)
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I am a legend in my own mind!
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04-19-2016, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If anyone cares, Southwest Airlines is saying that the man was accused of making threatening statements. It was what he said, not the language with which he said it, that got him kicked off.
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How could the accuser know the remarks were threatening when she DOESN'T SPEAK ARABIC???
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04-19-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
How could the accuser know the remarks were threatening when she DOESN'T SPEAK ARABIC???
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Gee, that's a real head-scratcher. Because it's not possible that someone else on the plane speaks Arabic and related the threat to the airline. Right? Not possible?
I'm not saying the airline isn't lying (I wasn't there). But (1) you weren't there either, and (2) the airline has a massive financial incentive not to act in a way that would result in the US student suing them for a jillion dollars.
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04-19-2016, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
fear leads to greater fear.
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And pretending that there aren't jihadists out there, leads to dead civilians. Yes or no?
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04-19-2016, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
How could the accuser know the remarks were threatening when she DOESN'T SPEAK ARABIC???
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The article does say this "After an Arabic-speaking Southwest employee escorted him off the plane . . ."
Doesn't say that the employee was on the flight, but it's possible that someone on the plane did understand Arabic. More information than the story relates is needed for anyone to have a reasonably biased opinion.
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04-19-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
The article does say this "After an Arabic-speaking Southwest employee escorted him off the plane . . ."
Doesn't say that the employee was on the flight, but it's possible that someone on the plane did understand Arabic. More information than the story relates is needed for anyone to have a reasonably biased opinion.
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The NYT who first reported the story lays it out in clear detail.
Student was having a pleasant conversation in Arabic with his uncle back in Iraq. A woman ahead of him was certain she had identified one of Jim's bad chocolates and notified the flight attendant.
Southwest scrambled to find someone who spoke Arabic to talk him off the plane who apparently was unintelligible and the student asked him to speak English. The then said poor Arabic speaker cautioned him about using Arabic on the aircraft for reasons just like this.
You guys are holding out on a presumption of guilt, oh, he must have done something right, he's a Muslim?
<<<<<BREAKING NEWS>>>>>
A video of the event was just posted to youtube.
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04-19-2016, 01:59 PM
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So he made a terrorist threat and was not arrested?
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04-19-2016, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
The NYT who first reported the story lays it out in clear detail.
Student was having a pleasant conversation in Arabic with his uncle back in Iraq. A woman ahead of him was certain she had identified one of Jim's bad chocolates and notified the flight attendant.
Southwest scrambled to find someone who spoke Arabic to talk him off the plane who apparently was unintelligible and the student asked him to speak English. The then said poor Arabic speaker cautioned him about using Arabic on the aircraft for reasons just like this.
You guys are holding out on a presumption of guilt, oh, he must have done something right, he's a Muslim?
<<<<<BREAKING NEWS>>>>>
A video of the event was just posted to youtube.
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That was funny. I wasn't holding out and I didn't have any presumption. But after your speaking jive video, I be frontin fo a big laugh.
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04-19-2016, 02:51 PM
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This thread seems to have fizzled into a slapshtick comedy of errors and misunderstandings resolving into the joke of being afraid of some fear of "something we are not far from . . ."
Much ado about nothing in the large picture of whatever.
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04-19-2016, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
"Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Those that take rumors as fact without checking for facts are doomed to spread the same rumors without facts.
(along the lines of how "urban legends" get started.
You hear the "story", fail to check the facts, and pass the "story" on to others without any facts to back it up.)
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Hey, I saw a meme come across my Facebook feed stating this was true......that's good enough for me....and sadly probably 25% of the population
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04-19-2016, 03:05 PM
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So he made a terrorist threat and was not arrested?
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Yes, after telling his uncle about his event with the UN Secretary General he mentioned he'd call back after they landed.
But he said it in Arabic.
Guy should be in GITMO if you ask me.
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04-19-2016, 03:38 PM
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Jim and buckman. Comparing people to dogs and food.
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04-19-2016, 03:52 PM
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Jim and buckman. Comparing people to dogs and food.
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It was an analogy and a pretty damn good one if I do say so myself .
By the way , doesn't it seem like most hate crimes nowadays turn into being hoaxes ?
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