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05-04-2016, 12:02 PM
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Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9836720
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05-04-2016, 12:14 PM
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Time to jump on the Clinton train because your other choice is Trump. I think we're going to start seeing the high profile GOP defections start soon...
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Don't be surprised if the Democrats turn on Clinton and she gets indicted so that they can put a candidate up that might win . She can barely beat Berney ...she has zero chance against Trump
The last thing we need is crooked Hillary appointing Supreme Court justices .
The reason Bernie voters will flock to Trump, is because America hates politicians . That is Obama's legacy
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05-04-2016, 12:15 PM
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Sanders fanboy should at least get some basic facts right about the issue.
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05-04-2016, 12:20 PM
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Maybe they can do a spin off series from Orange is the New Black.....
Just think about it, we may have a president that never goes on vacation...or on diplomatic missions for that matter.
She won't be able to go out of range of her Ankle Tether
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05-04-2016, 12:22 PM
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Jeff, do you think Hillary switched to a thong after the (alleged) Lewinsky tryst? It will be easier for you to wash ( floss with).
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05-04-2016, 12:53 PM
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Jeff, do you think Hillary switched to a thong after the (alleged) Lewinsky tryst? It will be easier for you to wash ( floss with).
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You're fixated, at least we know what's on your mind...
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05-04-2016, 12:56 PM
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Don't be surprised if the Democrats turn on Clinton and she gets indicted so that they can put a candidate up that might win . She can barely beat Berney ...she has zero chance against Trump
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Funny, with all the negativity she's still polling 10 points above him, but she has zero chance.
Wait until the debates, she's going to make him look like the fool he is.
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05-04-2016, 01:18 PM
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Funny, with all the negativity she's still polling 10 points above him, but she has zero chance.
Wait until the debates, she's going to make him look like the fool he is.
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Your selectively picking polls, She is not ahead . Does your wife know about your fantasies?
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05-04-2016, 02:17 PM
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Your selectively picking polls, She is not ahead . Does your wife know about your fantasies?
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You're right, new CNN poll has her up by 13 now.
Wife, loves Clinton. Have not discussed Sea Dangles curiosity with her. I'm a bit concerned she won't be able to get past his name.
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05-04-2016, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Funny, with all the negativity she's still polling 10 points above him, but she has zero chance.
Wait until the debates, she's going to make him look like the fool he is.
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She is way up in just about every poll. I don't think he has a prayer.
"Wait until the debates, she's going to make him look like the fool he is"
I wouldn't be so sure of that. It is irrefutable that she can (and should) pound him on what he said about John McCain and Carly Fiorina. However, one of the very few things i like about Trump, is that unlike other recent GOP candidates, he won't let her spew dishonest bile (which she is doing 75% of the time when she is speaking). McCain and Romney let Obama say whever he wanted, and they did not strike back, for fear of being called racist.
Trump has zero concerns about these things. If she takes off the gloves, he will follow suit, and will also happily put on brass knuckles. For example, she touts herself as a feminist. When she did that, Trump said something like "some feminist! You attacked your husband's victims, you said they were just out for celebrity. Then you stuck by him. What the hell kind of feminist does that?" And boy howdy, did that shut her up. She is one of the very few people on this planet, who probably has more baggage, fewer ethics and less sincerity than he does. That fact that many people (certainly including you) refuse to hold that baggage against her, doesn't mean that baggage isn't there. And he will gleefully club her like a baby seal with it. It likely won't be nearly enough to save him.
Unless she gets indicted (unlikely but possible, and God help you if it happens), it's going to be, as he would say, a yuge victory for her. Believe me, a yuge victory. Believe me. Yuge.
He's a self-congratulatory, crass, moronic simpleton. A horse's ass.
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05-04-2016, 05:14 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure of that. It is irrefutable that she can (and should) pound him on what he said about John McCain and Carly Fiorina. However, one of the very few things i like about Trump, is that unlike other recent GOP candidates, he won't let her spew dishonest bile (which she is doing 75% of the time when she is speaking). McCain and Romney let Obama say whever he wanted, and they did not strike back, for fear of being called racist.
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I don't think she'll need to go there. The moderators will bring it up for her and there is going to be a mountain of private money spent on ads that will just let Trump's own words speak for themselves.
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She is one of the very few people on this planet, who probably has more baggage, fewer ethics and less sincerity than he does. That fact that many people (certainly including you) refuse to hold that baggage against her, doesn't mean that baggage isn't there. And he will gleefully club her like a baby seal with it. It likely won't be nearly enough to save him.
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Clinton also has a massive resume of working for issues she believes in. I think a lot of your baggage is manufactured, especially your ethics and sincerity. The reality is almost nobody on the planet has had the well funded opposition for decades trying to tear her down...and yet she's leading the race. That should say something.
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Unless she gets indicted (unlikely but possible, and God help you if it happens), it's going to be, as he would say, a yuge victory for her. Believe me, a yuge victory. Believe me. Yuge.
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I think if there was any chance the DNC would have promoted an alternative to Sanders. They have known for quite some time what the real situation is and what the risks are. I don't think it's a gamble, they simply don't think there was any significant wrong doing and no evidence has been revealed that contradicts this. Obama can't cover anything up...
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He's a self-congratulatory, crass, moronic simpleton. A horse's ass.
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Agree and then some. So are you going to vote for Gary Johnson?
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05-04-2016, 05:57 PM
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If you like ...
Expensive shoddy healthcare , a leader who has no respect for the military and will keep the rules of engagement that keep our military at a disadvantage , hate gun ownership , have no issues with politicians that extort money for favors then vote for The Clintons !!
I'll take my chances with Trump
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05-04-2016, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
If you like ...
Expensive shoddy healthcare ,
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She was trying to address this 20 years ago but was blocked by the GOP. Can't blame her...
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a leader who has no respect for the military and will keep the rules of engagement that keep our military at a disadvantage
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Why do you say this? Her record as Senator on vets issues and defense spending is pretty solid. Can you cite a single policy reference that alludes to her position on ROE's?
Hate? Here are her three top priorities from her website...
1) Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.
2) Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.
3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.
Do you disagree with any of these?
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have no issues with politicians that extort money for favors then vote for The Clintons !!
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Any evidence of any of this?
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05-04-2016, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don't think she'll need to go there. The moderators will bring it up for her and there is going to be a mountain of private money spent on ads that will just let Trump's own words speak for themselves.
Clinton also has a massive resume of working for issues she believes in. I think a lot of your baggage is manufactured, especially your ethics and sincerity. The reality is almost nobody on the planet has had the well funded opposition for decades trying to tear her down...and yet she's leading the race. That should say something.
I think if there was any chance the DNC would have promoted an alternative to Sanders. They have known for quite some time what the real situation is and what the risks are. I don't think it's a gamble, they simply don't think there was any significant wrong doing and no evidence has been revealed that contradicts this. Obama can't cover anything up...
Agree and then some. So are you going to vote for Gary Johnson?
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"I don't think she'll need to go there"
It's what liberals do. When you are wrong on just about everything, you go on the attack. Most conservatives just sit there and take it. Trump doesn't give them that luxury.
"Clinton also has a massive resume of working for issues she believes in"
What has she done, exactly? Besides making herself obscenely wealthy, that is?
"I think a lot of your baggage is manufactured"
We know you think that, bless your heart. "My husband didn't cheat on me, we are victims of a vast right-wing conspiracy!!"
"Shot at by sniper fire"
Manufactured? I don't believe so...
"and yet she's leading the race. That should say something."
It sure does. It says that if your name is Kennedy or Clinton, then liberals don't give a darn what you do.
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05-04-2016, 07:12 PM
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3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists
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some profound brilliance right there
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05-04-2016, 07:45 PM
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some profound brilliance right there
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Considering your post perhaps she's just stating the obvious, but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.
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05-04-2016, 09:40 PM
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but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.
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Do you have any evidence of this?
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05-04-2016, 10:03 PM
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You're fixated, at least we know what's on your mind...
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You love it
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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05-05-2016, 04:58 AM
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[QUOTE=spence;1099928]She was trying to address this 20 years ago but was blocked by the GOP. Can't blame her...
Of course not , and 7+ years Into the Obama administration and he has no personal responsibility either. She will continue and expand the failed policies of this administration.
Why do you say this? Her record as Senator on vets issues and defense spending is pretty solid. Can you cite a single policy reference that alludes to her position on ROE's?
She had no problem openly lying in the face parents receiving Their sons remains at an airport. What percentage of the military do you think agrees with me on this?
Hate? Here are her three top priorities from her website...
1) Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.
2) Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.
The dealers are not breaking any laws . I know how important that is to you ,to walk the fine line , but they don't even do that .
Why would manufactures be responsible? I see a big donation from the lawyers . What a crock of bull#^&#^&#^&#^&
3) Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.
This is campaign bull#^&#^&#^&#^& . What are hero state and the obvious .
Do you disagree with any of these?
Any evidence of any of this?
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05-05-2016, 05:01 AM
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[QUOTE=spence;1099937but I wouldn't want a terrorist to be denied their Second Amendments Rights either.[/QUOTE]
That reminds me, if you love illegal immigration or immigration from radicalized area of the world. Vote for the Clintons
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05-05-2016, 07:25 AM
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Do you have any evidence of this?
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Sure, Syed Rizwan Farook.
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05-05-2016, 12:03 PM
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Sure, Syed Rizwan Farook.
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You mean that guy who got his guns illegally.....that guy.
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05-05-2016, 12:08 PM
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You mean that guy who got his guns illegally.....that guy.
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The two rifles were purchased legally by his friend and transferred illegally. All the handguns were purchased legally by licensed dealers.
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05-05-2016, 01:55 PM
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The two rifles were purchased legally by his friend and transferred illegally. All the handguns were purchased legally by licensed dealers.
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Your just being a pain in the ass now. The guns used in the terrorist attack were acquired illegally by the terrorist . Perhaps you would like to make the gun manufacture liable ? Whatever you do don't put the blame where it belongs .
The real fix is in making sure people like them do not get here I'm the first place .
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05-05-2016, 02:48 PM
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The two rifles were purchased legally by his friend and transferred illegally
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They're still illegal...
If go fill a prescription for pain meds and then give them to my neighbor, the junkie....does that mean he got them legally?
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05-05-2016, 03:10 PM
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Your just being a pain in the ass now. The guns used in the terrorist attack were acquired illegally by the terrorist . Perhaps you would like to make the gun manufacture liable ? Whatever you do don't put the blame where it belongs .
The real fix is in making sure people like them do not get here I'm the first place .
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No, they were all bought legally from licensed dealers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ef3_story.html
I don't think that's really even that important part of the issue though...the question is the threshold for the feds to deny rights under current law without sufficient evidence there's a clear threat to public safety.
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05-05-2016, 03:10 PM
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They're still illegal...
If go fill a prescription for pain meds and then give them to my neighbor, the junkie....does that mean he got them legally?
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I'm going to moot you. There, you've been mooted.
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05-05-2016, 04:39 PM
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I'm going to moot you. There, you've been mooted.
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Just like all the red flags Hillary waves
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05-05-2016, 05:30 PM
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Just like all the red flags Hillary waves
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That's right, you're a Trump fan now.
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05-05-2016, 05:45 PM
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No, they were all bought legally from licensed dealers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ef3_story.html
I don't think that's really even that important part of the issue though...the question is the threshold for the feds to deny rights under current law without sufficient evidence there's a clear threat to public safety.
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Is there something wrong with you? The weapons were purchased by Enrique Marquez. He then lent them to the shooters. That is illegal ,and he faces multiple charges for it .
A lot of illegally held guns were one time purchased legally..
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