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07-17-2016, 10:05 AM
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Location: Burnt Hills, New York
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Get rid of the black plastic, have someone glass a piece of Nida Core (use the black plastic as a template) to the box.
Starboard is heavy and not the best choice to fasten to the fiberglass box, weather it's screws, 5200, silicone.......
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I have never heard or know anything about this "Nida Core" so I googled it. I see that quite a few state it flexes somewhat especially when warm (sun) so I am concerned which all the pounding the overhead storage box will take that it will eventually do that same at the orig black plastic. The fact that 3 agree it is the way to fix I should consider it. Since it is a "honeycomb" design for the life of me I cannot see how perimeter screws will hold into that "hollow" type material as apposed to the starboard solid ?? Please elaborate .... I guess I just don't understand why the starboard would not work perfectly especially if I predrill dead center on the 1/2" and use nice long screws. I thought this stuff was the best thing since sliced bread. The fact that it is heavy I wouldn't think would be an issue.
If original material that failed (black plastic 1/4" thick), what thickness do you recomend Nida Core I use ? I was thinking 1/2"...
and other than using perimeter screws should I do anything else to afix it to the overhead storage box. it does have to be waterproof so contents do not get wet. I don't work with fiberglass much so not sure best route/steps to take. After the perimeter screws have been applied (should I also used glue while inserting them for added integrity) should I glass in, glue in or silicone in (like factory) to waterproof . I agree totally with Guppy that overbuilding it is an absolute must as lots of stuff in it and lots of pounding.... looking for the long haul....
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07-17-2016, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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You're right, you're not getting it
Your box was screwed to that cheep arz plastic top... We're saying f glass the new top to the box.... It'll become a one pcs box... To do the same again WITH SCREWS would be nuts IMO
BOATS!  
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07-17-2016, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Originally Posted by fish raptor
I have never heard or know anything about this "Nida Core" so I googled it. I see that quite a few state it flexes somewhat especially when warm (sun) so I am concerned which all the pounding the overhead storage box will take that it will eventually do that same at the orig black plastic. The fact that 3 agree it is the way to fix I should consider it. Since it is a "honeycomb" design for the life of me I cannot see how perimeter screws will hold into that "hollow" type material as apposed to the starboard solid ?? Please elaborate .... I guess I just don't understand why the starboard would not work perfectly especially if I predrill dead center on the 1/2" and use nice long screws. I thought this stuff was the best thing since sliced bread. The fact that it is heavy I wouldn't think would be an issue.
If original material that failed (black plastic 1/4" thick), what thickness do you recomend Nida Core I use ? I was thinking 1/2"...
and other than using perimeter screws should I do anything else to afix it to the overhead storage box. it does have to be waterproof so contents do not get wet. I don't work with fiberglass much so not sure best route/steps to take. After the perimeter screws have been applied (should I also used glue while inserting them for added integrity) should I glass in, glue in or silicone in (like factory) to waterproof . I agree totally with Guppy that overbuilding it is an absolute must as lots of stuff in it and lots of pounding.... looking for the long haul....
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Nida Core is a Core material.
Most modern builders use it or a similar material.
It's glassed over on both sides and would be glass to your box making it 1 unit.
Done correctly it will be light weight, stable in all temperatures and last forever unlike wood, starboard, 5200 or attached with screws.
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07-17-2016, 09:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Burnt Hills, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Nida Core is a Core material.
Most modern builders use it or a similar material.
It's glassed over on both sides and would be glass to your box making it 1 unit.
Done correctly it will be light weight, stable in all temperatures and last forever unlike wood, starboard, 5200 or attached with screws.
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O.K. I am finally getting the picture, so Nida would be glassed to the storage box..... so the next question is..... can someone who has never glassed before get the job done or is this something that I have to "hire out". I am pretty handy and with youtube videos explaining "how to" I would guess I would be able to handle it but would like to know what is involved in "glassing it" to the orig storage box. What do I buy, quantity, do I have to buy fiberglass mesh for the repair.
can anyone provide brand names of specific product/s I need and possibly where I might find such products. I would start by purchasing a slightly oversized piece of this Nida and cut it precisely to fit just inside the box, possibly using the existing black plastic as a template.
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07-18-2016, 04:13 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fish raptor
O.K. I am finally getting the picture, so Nida would be glassed to the storage box..... so the next question is..... can someone who has never glassed before get the job done or is this something that I have to "hire out". I am pretty handy and with youtube videos explaining "how to" I would guess I would be able to handle it but would like to know what is involved in "glassing it" to the orig storage box. What do I buy, quantity, do I have to buy fiberglass mesh for the repair.
can anyone provide brand names of specific product/s I need and possibly where I might find such products. I would start by purchasing a slightly oversized piece of this Nida and cut it precisely to fit just inside the box, possibly using the existing black plastic as a template.
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Not really a do it yourself job.
From your profile I see you are in NY.
If you were closer or wanted to get it to me I could do the job.
Keep in mind, after glassing to your existing box it's would need to be gel coated
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07-18-2016, 07:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Burnt Hills, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Not really a do it yourself job.
From your profile I see you are in NY.
If you were closer or wanted to get it to me I could do the job.
Keep in mind, after glassing to your existing box it's would need to be gel coated
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I am pretty handy and cutting the Nida perfectly to fit the box would be cake.... it's just the glassing in that I would have to become proficient at. Once the Nida is permanently afixed to the box rescrewing it back in place is also cake. It glassing that difficult that I could not learn how to do it with help from say Youtube or written instructions ?
Don't understand why It would need to be gelcoated. I thought that process was just done to make it look "pretty" ... ie... give it a nice white glossy look but since this Nida piece is hidden from view as it is on the inside top of the box why would it need to be gelcoated. The only part of it that you would see is the bottom surface when you opened up the overhead storage front door and looked inside at it's ceiling.
Am I correct in assuming that the gelcoating is done only for cosmetic reasons only and has nothing to to with it structurally ?
Where do you live ? I mean if push came to shove I could run it out in my Altima..... BUT I head to the cape about ever two to three weeks to fish so I would be looking to getting it fixed...... yesterday. I take it you do not have this Nida product and would have to order it like myself.
I live in Burnt Hills (near Saratoga) and we have some nice coffee shops close to my house.....
signed
Motel 6
"We'll leave the light on".....
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