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07-18-2016, 01:34 PM
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[QUOTE=buckman;1104475]Is there a reason he won't light the Whitehouse blue ? I know it's purely symbolic and just shows your support but isn't that why it was done in the rainbow colors also .
Once again he had an opportunity and he chose not to do it . Can one of his defenders explain that ?
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And putting the Blue lights doesn't show show support Personal this Jon Adler, president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association has no sway.. and i see it as him giving his ASSOCIATION AKA lobbyist some attention
And if you cant understand the sea change that came with the gay marriage and how many lives of American it changed cant help you with that
Do we expect the white House to light up the marine corps colors when we lost 6 marines 2015 http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/stor...rash/27483577/
of course not ... but some how ordering Flag half staff Nation wide isn't enough of a show off support .. but blue lights are ? all this from the we'll never be happy about Obama no matter what he does crowd
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07-18-2016, 03:35 PM
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1104505][QUOTE=buckman;1104475]Is there a reason he won't light the Whitehouse blue ? I know it's purely symbolic and just shows your support but isn't that why it was done in the rainbow colors also .
Once again he had an opportunity and he chose not to do it . Can one of his defenders explain that ?
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And putting the Blue lights doesn't show show support Personal this Jon Adler, president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association has no sway.. and i see it as him giving his ASSOCIATION AKA lobbyist some attention
And if you cant understand the sea change that came with the gay marriage and how many lives of American it changed cant help you with that
Do we expect the white House to light up the marine corps colors when we lost 6 marines 2015 http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/stor...rash/27483577/
of course not ... but some how ordering Flag half staff Nation wide isn't enough of a show off support .. but blue lights are ? all this from the we'll never be happy about Obama no matter what he does crowd[/QUOTE
All that and you can't answer my question . You know everything but the answers .
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07-18-2016, 04:07 PM
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I did you just dont like my answer
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07-18-2016, 04:24 PM
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Obama's Chickens are Coming Home To Roost
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07-18-2016, 04:27 PM
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Obama's Chickens are Coming Home To Roost
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You need to say that, screaming and drooling like a lunatic, to complete the impression. Then, because racism is so widespread, Rev Wright buys a multimillion dollar house in a zip code that is 99.99% white.
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07-18-2016, 04:26 PM
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I did you just dont like my answer
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Can you answer my question? If I call Obama divisive, and I list a multitude of quotes that are irrefutably attributed to Obama to support that...then how am I a racist? Just because I criticized him?
Have fun!
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07-18-2016, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Can you answer my question? If I call Obama divisive, and I list a multitude of quotes that are irrefutably attributed to Obama to support that...then how am I a racist? Just because I criticized him?
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You are the poster child for a big part of what's wrong here.
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07-18-2016, 05:11 PM
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You are the poster child for a big part of what's wrong here.
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Here's the difference...First, I am aware that I am guilty of being divisive, therefore I am honest enough to admit that I'm in no position to lecture anyone on the need to be inclusive.
Second, I am correct in 99% of my criticisms of liberals in general, and Obama in particular. But when Obama says that (for example) cops killing blacks are not isolated incidents, he's being a moron and an obvious instigator. There is exactly zero factual evidence to back that up. When he says that Midwesterners cling to guns and religion because they are bitter and racist, every sane person knows that's an asinine thing to say.
Look at my first post. Are those comments indicative of someone who gives a crap about bringing us together? And am I correct when I attribute those things to Obama? Or am I making them up?
Have fun...
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07-18-2016, 05:17 PM
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Second, I am correct in 99% of my criticisms of liberals in general, and Obama in particular.
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This just made my day...
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07-19-2016, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Can you answer my question? If I call Obama divisive, and I list a multitude of quotes that are irrefutably attributed to Obama to support that...then how am I a racist? Just because I criticized him?
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never called you a racist as for Divisive seems only some white people interpret his statements as such and the all seem to be conservatives which could just be chance .
is this one of your quotes We know that the overwhelming majority of police officers do an incredibly hard and dangerous job fairly and professionally. They are deserving of our respect and not our scorn. (Applause.) And when anyone, no matter how good their intentions may be, paints all police as biased or bigoted, we undermine those officers we depend on for our safety. And as for those who use rhetoric suggesting harm to police, even if they don’t act on it themselves -- well, they not only make the jobs of police officers even more dangerous, but they do a disservice to the very cause of justice that they claim to promote.
or this one
We tell them to keep those neighborhoods in check at all costs, and do so without causing any political blowback or inconvenience. Don’t make a mistake that might disturb our own peace of mind. And then we feign surprise when, periodically, the tensions boil over.
We know these things to be true. They’ve been true for a long time. We know it. Police, you know it. Protestors, you know it. You know how dangerous some of the communities where these police officers serve are, and you pretend as if there’s no context. These things we know to be true.
no you post only this from the same speech.. thats called being divisive.... We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book - going off on gun control
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07-19-2016, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
never called you a racist as for Divisive seems only some white people interpret his statements as such and the all seem to be conservatives which could just be chance .
is this one of your quotes We know that the overwhelming majority of police officers do an incredibly hard and dangerous job fairly and professionally. They are deserving of our respect and not our scorn. (Applause.) And when anyone, no matter how good their intentions may be, paints all police as biased or bigoted, we undermine those officers we depend on for our safety. And as for those who use rhetoric suggesting harm to police, even if they don’t act on it themselves -- well, they not only make the jobs of police officers even more dangerous, but they do a disservice to the very cause of justice that they claim to promote.
or this one
We tell them to keep those neighborhoods in check at all costs, and do so without causing any political blowback or inconvenience. Don’t make a mistake that might disturb our own peace of mind. And then we feign surprise when, periodically, the tensions boil over.
We know these things to be true. They’ve been true for a long time. We know it. Police, you know it. Protestors, you know it. You know how dangerous some of the communities where these police officers serve are, and you pretend as if there’s no context. These things we know to be true.
no you post only this from the same speech.. thats called being divisive.... We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book - going off on gun control
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WDMSO, the first part of Obama's eulogy was magnificent. And then, of course, he blew it. Did Obama say that cops killing black men are not isolated incidents? Did he say that, or did he not say it?
I never said that every single word that comes out of Obama's mouth is divisive. But a lot of what he says, sure is. I don't remember Bush, or Bill Clinton, leading that way, not at all.
If 95% of what Obama says is harmless, but 5% of what he says is racist and divisive bullsh*t, then that's a problem.
You cannot make that wrong. But your liberalism doesn't allow you to admit that I have a point. Because you can't be intellectually honest and be a liberal. Yes, you can point to many inspiring things that Obama has said. That doesn't come close to refuting my point. Again, you are acting like I said that everything Obama says is divisive. That's not what I said. Once again, you respond to something I never came close to saying.
It's not possible to be intellectually honest and be liberal. In my first post, I listed a half dozen things he said, which any rational person would say is divisive. You can't admit that I have a point, and the best you can do is say "well, he does say some things that aren't divisive". But that's not the point. The point is that he occasionally says terrible things, which are demonstrably false, for political gain.
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07-19-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
never called you a racist as for Divisive seems only some white people interpret his statements as such and the all seem to be conservatives which could just be chance .
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Not remotely true. Watch Foxnews, and you'll se many, many blacks who call out Obama as I have. Your handicap is that you get yoru news from places that don't ever present both sides.
"they all seem to be conservatives "
Maybe that's because most liberals can't ever admit that Obama (or any prominent Democrat) is flawed. Spence won't concede that Hilary lied about coming under sniper fire. How do you explain that?
Let me ask you 2 very, very simple questions based on my first post.
(1) Did Obama say the things I claimed he said, or am I making it up?
(2) Are you unable to see how someone like me would justifiably be offended by those statements?
2 questions. Any chance you can answer them directly?
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