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08-12-2016, 10:38 AM
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next f up "I meant that Obama founded ISIS, literally" Not their policy's or actions lead to the development of issis..
Your first sentence is in quotes. Your second sentence is not in quotes. Is the second sentence your "interpretation"?
Trump was asked by host Hugh Hewitt about the comments Trump made Wednesday night in Florida, and Hewitt said he understood Trump to mean "that he (Obama) created the vacuum, he lost the peace."
Trump objected.
"No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," Trump said. "I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."
So, by the quoted expressions, Trump is saying that Obama is the founder of ISIS because he was the most valuable player. It seems that Trump has a personal "interpretation" of "founding" which includes being the most valuable player, not necessarily being the one who creates the philosophy and implements it.
From past discussions with you, I take it that you are in favor of personal interpretations when it comes to the far more serious cases of Supreme Court decisions. But when it comes to Trump in an inconsequential discussion . . . no, no, his interpretation of "founder" is a disqualification. You conveniently left out the following quote in his discussion with Hewitt, "The way he got out of Iraq, that was the founding of ISIS." Which also contradicts your interpretation of your first and incomplete quote of Trump in which you said that Trump did not mean that "their policy's or actions lead to the development of issis.." He actually did say the actions led to the development of ISIS.
Hewitt pushed back again, saying that Obama is "not sympathetic" to ISIS and "hates" and is "trying to kill them."
"I don't care," Trump said,
Yeah, I understand that. Regardless of not being sympathetic to ISIS, and is now trying to kill them, "The way he got out of Iraq, that was the founding of ISIS" even though he is not sympathetic to it.
I am amazed of the level of support here for this embarrassment and possible Face of America again fact need not apply.. at what point to you take responsibility for your Choice and stop playing the victim
You could very well be speaking of Hillary with this comment. Of course, you would not like that interpretation.
you guys are running out of Main stream media excuse.. ( shocking another conspiracy theory )
60.13% Percentage of Donald Trump claims that have been rated False or Pants on Fire.
2.53% Percentage of Donald Trump claims rated True since he started his campaign.
13.33% of claims made by Hillary Clinton rated False or Pants on Fire.
13.33% Percentage of claims made by Hillary Clinton rated True during the 2016 campaign.
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These percentages by not completely objective "analysts" have a hard time deciding the full context of various quotes. Sometimes, especially when it comes to Trump, they miss important personal or contextual circumstances. As Trump asked "Don't they get sarcasm?"
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08-12-2016, 03:29 PM
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I don't know what it is that some of you people do not understand here about who actually runs this country. I know our government is supposed to be by the people for the people. Well it hasn't been that way for a long while. Our government are pawns. The ones in charge are afraid of Trump because he does not answer to them. They will do what it takes to not have him as president and have been doing just that right before your eyes, open them up and you will see it. Hillary is like teflon, nothing sticks to her. If the election goes her way I predict this country goes further down the tube instead of having a chance to crawl out of it.
Money, greed and power, throw in lack of ethics and no moral compass and you get failure. Pretty simple.
If the constitution gets any more beat on in the coming years, there will be an uprising no doubt about it.
these remarks by Trump that liberals interpret in their own twisted way to make it out that he suggests armed citizens assassinate someone are ridiculous, he wants democrats who believe in the 2nd amendment to vote for the person that is not going to take their rights away but the media blows it up as expected.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-12-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
these remarks by Trump that liberals interpret in their own twisted way to make it out that he suggests armed citizens assassinate someone are ridiculous, he wants democrats who believe in the 2nd amendment to vote for the person that is not going to take their rights away but the media blows it up as expected.
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It's an intentional remark intended to be a dog whistle with a planned escape route...Trump has done it all campaign. It's terrible. |
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08-12-2016, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It's an intentional remark intended to be a dog whistle with a planned escape route...Trump has done it all campaign. It's terrible.
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08-12-2016, 09:41 PM
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It's terrible.
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no, if that is his strategy, and it works, then it is fair.
How else do you fight a biased media that falls over themselves to defend a liar,a thief, a traitor, a risk to national security, a morally corrupt individual, a greedy power hungry snake in the grass sorry excuse for a human being and short sighted more than the idiots who want to elect her
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-13-2016, 06:41 AM
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Money, greed and power, throw in lack of ethics and no moral compass and you get failure. Pretty simple.
Thats Trump in a nut shell..
Still not sure why the right continually buys in to this The media is the enemy .. Sounds like something Putin believes do you all support a State run media? because thats what you all suggest is whats happening now
Because all I see is supporters of Trump who do nothing but blame the media Not him Trump speaks like a fortune cookie then when he gets Blow back he backs down then blame the media Hate Hillary but seeing him as a better choice???
Trump supporters are suffering from Stockholm syndrome,
capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captor(TRUMP) sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with TRUMP These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims
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08-13-2016, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Money, greed and power, throw in lack of ethics and no moral compass and you get Clintons. Pretty simple.
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08-13-2016, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
no, if that is his strategy, and it works, then it is fair.
How else do you fight a biased media that falls over themselves to defend a liar,a thief, a traitor, a risk to national security, a morally corrupt individual, a greedy power hungry snake in the grass sorry excuse for a human being and short sighted more than the idiots who want to elect her
If your eyes are closed, I suggest open them
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again feelings over facts I have never seen someone so dirty as you suggest and yet no one can connect the dots the past 30 years |
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08-13-2016, 11:21 AM
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The media should do their jobs and report the facts not their opinions, Using their positions to sway personal opinions is morally corrupt.
Trump is not the problem, communists are
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-13-2016, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
The media should do their jobs and report the facts not their opinions, Using their positions to sway personal opinions is morally corrupt.
Trump is not the problem, communists are
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WOW now its Communists .. |
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08-14-2016, 08:08 AM
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-14-2016, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
no, if that is his strategy, and it works, then it is fair.
How else do you fight a biased media that falls over themselves to defend a liar,a thief, a traitor, a risk to national security, a morally corrupt individual, a greedy power hungry snake in the grass sorry excuse for a human being and short sighted more than the idiots who want to elect her
If your eyes are closed, I suggest open them
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Amazing that the two most blind people on this site can't or won't open their eyes,they know they are in the wrong and yet willingly will still follow that path.That is what is truly sickening. |
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08-14-2016, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
Amazing that the two most blind people on this site can't or won't open their eyes,they know they are in the wrong and yet willingly will still follow that path.That is what is truly sickening.
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Jim and Scott make two, what about the others?
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