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09-11-2016, 07:30 AM
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Another example of the simplistic View forwarded by Conservatives
can we talk current events.. not how things were 140 years ago
Historians say the KKK consisted of a group of Southern whites after the Civil War who were Democrats. But there’s no evidence the KKK was created by their political party.
It should also be noted that the anti-black Democratic Party of the 1860s and 1870s bears no similarity to the party of today.
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Which party supported segregation in the 1950s, which party worked to end segregation?
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09-11-2016, 09:31 AM
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Which party supported segregation in the 1950s, which party worked to end segregation?
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again that was 66 years ago your getting closer it is 2016
todays republicans Party I stress TODAYS
A federal appeals court has blocked a proof-of-citizenship requirement on a federal mail voter registration form in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia.
Supreme Court Shuts Down Michigan’s Push To Eliminate ‘Straight-Ticket’ Voting
Republican-Authored Voting Laws in Wisconsin, Kansas, North Carolina Overturned
the new GOP we dont need to convince you to Vote for us we'll just make it harder in the hopes you don't vote for them
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09-11-2016, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
again that was 66 years ago your getting closer it is 2016
todays republicans Party I stress TODAYS
A federal appeals court has blocked a proof-of-citizenship requirement on a federal mail voter registration form in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia.
Supreme Court Shuts Down Michigan’s Push To Eliminate ‘Straight-Ticket’ Voting
Republican-Authored Voting Laws in Wisconsin, Kansas, North Carolina Overturned
the new GOP we dont need to convince you to Vote for us we'll just make it harder in the hopes you don't vote for them
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The new GOP actually wants to do something to help those in urban areas . What's the new Democratic Party got? Maybe move a bunch of Syrian refugees into Detroits empty housing?
You people actually believe that calling for a photo ID to vote is racist. That's how far over the edge you have gone . I think college kids today should pursuing a career in psychological therapy, I see a very promising future in it .
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09-11-2016, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
again that was 66 years ago your getting closer it is 2016
todays republicans Party I stress TODAYS
A federal appeals court has blocked a proof-of-citizenship requirement on a federal mail voter registration form in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia.
What is your objection to this? Is this supposed to be racist? Wouldn't the requirement be applied to all races?
Supreme Court Shuts Down Michigan’s Push To Eliminate ‘Straight-Ticket’ Voting
Straight ticket applies to both parties. This would affect Republican voters as well as Democrats. Although it's not necessary to vote straight ticket, voters are persuaded by political machines to do so, thereby dumbing them down to strict party lines--making it easier for either party to get bad candidates elected when there would be a better choice.
The "ease" of straight ticket voting makes it easier to dissuade voters from any critical thinking and into just being Party mules--easier just to, as you might say, carry the Party's water.
It makes it easier to control political thought. And the supposed difficulty in splitting a ticket (it's not difficult nor a hardship) in favor of a straight ticket actually makes it difficult, if not impossible, for instance, for a Republican to even run in any Detroit precincts. It's a version of your "we dont need to convince you to Vote for us we'll just make it harder [for Republicans] in the hopes you don't vote for them
Republican-Authored Voting Laws in Wisconsin, Kansas, North Carolina Overturned
This is a simplistic statement.
the new GOP we dont need to convince you to Vote for us we'll just make it harder in the hopes you don't vote for them
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You could more justly apply this statement to the political concept of your party giving you more than the other party. There is no need to convince voters of the virtue of self-reliance and personal freedom if you can provide them with enough to get along. No need to convince you that it is destructive to a free civil society when government takes your place in shaping your life.
It is very difficult to have a rational political discussion with someone who wants free stuff. And it is almost impossible to convince that person that the stuff is not free.
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09-11-2016, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
again that was 66 years ago your getting closer it is 2016
todays republicans Party I stress TODAYS
A federal appeals court has blocked a proof-of-citizenship requirement on a federal mail voter registration form in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia.
Supreme Court Shuts Down Michigan’s Push To Eliminate ‘Straight-Ticket’ Voting
Republican-Authored Voting Laws in Wisconsin, Kansas, North Carolina Overturned
the new GOP we dont need to convince you to Vote for us we'll just make it harder in the hopes you don't vote for them
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"again that was 66 years ago your getting closer it is 2016"
OK. In 2016, most states run by liberals for decades (CT, RI, Mass, IL) are on the verge of bankruptcy, but liberals deny it or ignore it. Today in 2016, cities run by liberals for decades (Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee are uninhabitable sh*tholes, where thanks to liberalism, huge numbers of blacks are stuck in poverty with no way to lift themselves out. Liberals deny it, or ignore it. Here in 2016, after years of Obama, we have the slowest recovery from a recession ever, with median wages that are down since he's been in office, and pathetic GDP growth, and staggering increases to his debt. Here is 2016, thanks to liberalism, schools can't give chocolate milk or soda to little kids, but they hand out condoms.
" federal appeals court has blocked a proof-of-citizenship requirement on a federal mail voter registration form in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia.
Supreme Court Shuts Down Michigan’s Push To Eliminate ‘Straight-Ticket’ Voting"
OK, Obama was successfully sued by Hobby Lobby and the Little Sisters of The Poor for trampling on their First Amendment Rights. What is your point?
Here in 2016, the GOP controls both houses of Congress (for now, the Senate is up for grabs)) and has a huge majority of governorships and state legislatures.
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09-11-2016, 12:36 PM
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Seems you guys need to see and understand why the courts are are ruling against all theses NEW laws most enacted primary by republican in those states ..
or is your answer going to be the same as all your other answers it is the liberal and progressive Judges Fault
I love the fantasy... these laws are to protect the voting process ...
to use your guys need for past history theses laws where fine 15 ,20 ,30 even 60 years ago .. but now there not 
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09-11-2016, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Seems you guys need to see and understand why the courts are are ruling against all theses NEW laws most enacted primary by republican in those states ..
or is your answer going to be the same as all your other answers it is the liberal and progressive Judges Fault
Seems you need to see and understand why the courts are ruling the way they do. Oh wait, however courts rule, for you that's just the way it is and is supposed to be. No need for you to question court rulings.
Your model of citizenship for a free civil society is frightening.
I love the fantasy... these laws are to protect the voting process ...
The proposed laws which were struck down were designed to protect the voting process. Requiring ID, for instance, is designed to protect the voting process. But if some Judge has a different opinion, a different agenda, then the laws ain't no good.
Leave the process up to a few Judges. Scary.
to use your guys need for past history theses laws where fine 15 ,20 ,30 even 60 years ago .. but now there not 
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So past history is good if it is not more than 60 years old. Anything over 60 years ago is no good. If its less than 60 years ago, it is written in temporary stone and must not be touched.
A lot happened in those 60 years that needed fixing. So long as any change is Constitutional, and the people approve, no Judge should have the power to disapprove. However, when Judges rule by philosophical or personal agenda, as Progressive Judges do, then neither Congress nor The People have their Constitutional right to make necessary adjustments to political process.
You don't like that same old argument. But it is the only argument which will protect you and the rest of us from despotisms, even the ones that promise nice sounding things.
Leaving the power in the hands of a few judges who do not respect the overall Constitutional process to decide what protects the voting process, is the surest way of achieving a corrupted voting process.
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09-12-2016, 06:22 AM
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WD....so u say it was stupid for Trump to use, "Make America Great Again," but U seem to think it was great that billy boy said it and it ment different back then, but racist today.
U must have loved it when hillary said that half of trump voters were deploreable etc:.....her statement was no better then rommney's 47 percent....she should B ashamed and should apologise to the country.....remember she has a larger % of uneducated voting for her....repubs R in the 20-25 % and hillary is over the 60% of uneducated.... 
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"When its not about money,it's all about money."...
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09-12-2016, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Fly Rod
WD....so u say it was stupid for Trump to use, "Make America Great Again," but U seem to think it was great that billy boy said it and it ment different back then, but racist today.
U must have loved it when hillary said that half of trump voters were deploreable etc:.....her statement was no better then rommney's 47 percent....she should B ashamed and should apologise to the country.....remember she has a larger % of uneducated voting for her....repubs R in the 20-25 % and hillary is over the 60% of uneducated.... 
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why should she apologize to the country for what not being politically correct .. I thought you guys liked people who tell it like it is she may have been wrong on How many were deplorable for their views but she wasn't wrong that theses people exist ...
I never said it was a stupid slogan
its actually very good .. But it seem people such as your self dont understand its not the slogan thats the issue ...
its the message behind the slogan and how he intends to follow thru
maybe it should read .. make America white again ..to avoid being politically correct because thats his supporters demographic in a nut shell.. I see it here I see it at work I see it with my 71 year old Mother
Trump’s supporters are a bit older, less educated and earn less than the average Republican. Slightly over half are women. About half are between 45 and 64 years of age, with another 34 percent over 65 years old and less than 2 percent younger than 30.
not sure if He can win just with those voters .. But unlike most here if the Donald or Hillary win the election ..they will My POTUS
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09-12-2016, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So past history is good if it is not more than 60 years old. Anything over 60 years ago is no good. If its less than 60 years ago, it is written in temporary stone and must not be touched.
A lot happened in those 60 years that needed fixing. So long as any change is Constitutional, and the people approve, no Judge should have the power to disapprove. However, when Judges rule by philosophical or personal agenda, as Progressive Judges do, then neither Congress nor The People have their Constitutional right to make necessary adjustments to political process.
You don't like that same old argument. But it is the only argument which will protect you and the rest of us from despotisms, even the ones that promise nice sounding things.
Leaving the power in the hands of a few judges who do not respect the overall Constitutional process to decide what protects the voting process, is the surest way of achieving a corrupted voting process.
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Thanks again for your another installment of fight the power by detbuch
from 1 of the ruling states its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black
turnout at the polls.
whos protecting who?
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09-12-2016, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
from 1 of the ruling states its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black
turnout at the polls.
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How?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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09-12-2016, 09:30 PM
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Thanks again for your another installment of fight the power by detbuch
Your welcome.
from 1 of the ruling states its provisions deliberately “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” in an effort to depress black
turnout at the polls.
Putting on a black robe and being referred to as "Your Honor" does not give someone magic powers, doesn't transform one from a flawed human to some God-like figure. As a group, Judges are no less flawed, nor more virtuous than elected officials. Some Judges may be, most are not. Some tend to be pompous asses full of themselves. Some are political hacks and toadies to the party that appoints them. I'm sure you know this. I'm sure you know that some Judges have been downright evil. Many have had rulings overturned, even generations later.
Which makes me wonder why you unquestioningly accept what they say and even admit that "I dont know ? try research.. I am not the judge who made the ruling but it seems they saw How.."
Is this another installment of your lemming-like submit to the power by wdmso?
whos protecting who?
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It seems that you are protecting the power.
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