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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, it has been asked multiple times. It has been answered, zero times. Because the burden of getting the id, obviously, is not a function of race.

How about this. If I pull up a thread where we discussed this exact same issue from now on every time you bring up a topic that has been discussed before and someone points it out, you don't particpate in the rest of that thread?

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

Just because he said it doesn't make it so....

Was it Idiotic? Yes. Was it Misguided? Yes. Was it one Party trying to defame the other party's candidate? Yes

Was it Racist? Absolutely not....

that term has gotten sooooo over-used it has completely lost its validity in most arguments.

Please tell me how asking someone to produce their birth certificate, or claiming they're not a US citizen, meets the definition of racism.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
noun: racism

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Was it Racist? Absolutely not....

that term has gotten sooooo over-used it has completely lost its validity in most arguments.

Please tell me how asking someone to produce their birth certificate, or claiming they're not a US citizen, meets the definition of racism.

Use the brain Luke!
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Use the brain Luke!
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Use Common Sense, Jar Jar

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

How about this. If I pull up a thread where we discussed this exact same issue from now on every time you bring up a topic that has been discussed before and someone points it out, you don't particpate in the rest of that thread?

Funny you mention Colin Powell - he just said the whole Birther movement was racist.

This is surreal. We keep asking why the id process is more burdensome for blacks, and you will not answer. You dodge. You re-direct. You insult. But you cannot answer the question directly.

Colin Powell? Now that his emails were hacked, we really know what he thinks of Hilary (ambitious, full of hubris) and her pervert husband (still di*king bimbos in his home!!!).

Of course, some racists were birthers. That doesn't mean questioning his birth, was necessarily racist. Some of them weren't racist, just paranoid or stupid or uninformed.

Anyway, one final time...please tell us why it's harder for blacks to get this id, than whites.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

This is surreal. We keep asking why the id process is more burdensome for blacks, and you will not answer. You dodge. You re-direct. You insult. But you cannot answer the question directly.This is sureal - As I said (and I'll repeat again) we have already discussed this exact same issue previously.

Colin Powell? Now that his emails were hacked, we really know what he thinks of Hilary (ambitious, full of hubris) and her pervert husband (still di*king bimbos in his home!!!).yes,he does and he thinks Trump is a clown.

Of course, some racists were birthers. That doesn't mean questioning his birth, was necessarily racist. Some of them weren't racist, just paranoid or stupid or uninformed.

Anyway, one final time...please tell us why it's harder for blacks to get this id, than whites.See above

See above and earlier post.

What about the point that the reason the laws were passed is to prevent minorities from voting.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

See above and earlier post.

What about the point that the reason the laws were passed is to prevent minorities from voting.

"This is sureal - As I said (and I'll repeat again) we have already discussed this exact same issue previously. "

OK. Let's pretend that I am as dumb as you think I am, and that I can't recall the previous discussion. Because my recollection, is that previous discussion was a lot like this one - many requests for clarification on why the id burden is higher for blacks, with zero actual reasons provided by you and Spence. Please provide actual examples of why blacks, by virtue of their skin color, have a harder time getting that id.

"he (Powell)thinks Trump is a clown. "

here's the thing. I agree with Powell that Trump is a clown. Do you agree with Powell, that Hilary is prone to hubris, and that her husband is a pervert who could spit into a petri dish and start a whole new civilization?

""So you think my saying that is saying they are racist?"

Umm, yes. If you say Republicans have no use for minorities, that is saying they are racist. You are saying that the GOP has derogatory opinions of people based on skin color. Last time I checked, that's the textbook definition of racism.

"I never mentioned racism 1 way or the other. I repeated what the person you hold up to show the Repubs. appeal to minorities said about the birher movement"

OK, so if you use Colin Powell's accusations of racism, to suggest that racism exists, that's not you mentioning racism.

Cue the Twilight Zone music...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

OK. Let's pretend that I am as dumb as you think I am, and that I can't recall the previous discussion. Because my recollection, is that previous discussion was a lot like this one - many requests for clarification on why the id burden is higher for blacks, with zero actual reasons provided by you and Spence. Please provide actual examples of why blacks, by virtue of their skin color, have a harder time getting that id.

I made you an offer earlier - if I show you a link where we discussed the EXACT SAME THING, you agree that anytime you bring up the EXACT SAME THING that has been discussed previously and someone provides a link, you refrain from posting in that thread.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I made you an offer earlier - if I show you a link where we discussed the EXACT SAME THING, you agree that anytime you bring up the EXACT SAME THING that has been discussed previously and someone provides a link, you refrain from posting in that thread.

No.

I'm not interested in re-examining another link, where we kept asking the question, and you kept dodging.

So just tell us why voter id laws are more burdensome for blacks than they are for whites.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No.

I'm not interested in re-examining another link, where we kept asking the question, and you kept dodging.

So just tell us why voter id laws are more burdensome for blacks than they are for whites.

And I'm not interesting in discussing the same thing over and over and over with you.