It's PUTIN'S FAULT!

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

There was this constant warning by some of us that removing the limits of power which the Constitution places on government--regardless of how well intentioned are those who promise us that more power will enable them to better make our lives easier and fuller--there could (probably would) eventually come to power someone who you fear--the boogeyman who you think is not worthy or capable of wielding that unchecked power and thereby doing great damage to us and our way of life.

In response, some said that we had already progressed beyond that outworn piece of paper, which was good for its time, but that we are in a new historical era in which we no longer had to fear government. That we have evolved into a time where unbridled freedom had gone too far and the checks on government needed to be removed in order to impose fairness and justice--all that was needed now was politicians to act responsibly.

Some said they didn't understand the intricacies of how the Constitution worked, or what it really meant. That they were content to leave that up to the politicians, judges, and lawyers. To the real experts. The experts would make it work, as experts do in everything else.

Many said nothing.

It appears, from the fear of Trump being displayed here, that the unexpected boogeyman has arrived. Now, the bigly, badly, tyrant and his henchmen will wield the constitutionally unchecked power that we so willingly gave away for the nice promises of what government would do for us rather than doing it ourselves.

Oh well . . .

But maybe Trump will ignorantly nominate some old-fashioned constitutionalists to the various levels of federal courts, especially the Supreme one. But will you guys be happy with that? And will your Progressive political hero's allow that?

I am confused? do you not have an issue with the russians playing in our election? that is the topic

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I am confused? do you not have an issue with the russians playing in our election? that is the topic

Fake news at it's finest.

How about the 60% of precincts in Detroit they couldn't recount because there were more votes than people checked in or the seals on the voting machines were broken.... Silence is deafening
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Fake news at it's finest.

How about the 60% of precincts in Detroit they couldn't recount because there were more votes than people checked in or the seals on the voting machines were broken.... Silence is deafening
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Your post is exactly what he was talking about two posts earlier. So tell us how it is "fake news"?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I am confused?

That's a fake response.

do you not have an issue with the russians playing in our election?

No. They have always done so. The U.S. has always played in other country's politics. It's standard political procedure. Saying that it is an issue is political fakery.

I am concerned with our own government interfering with our elections and our lives.



that is the topic

In this thread you asked "What road real or imagined with Trump take us down???

I don't know if that was off topic. Or if you're allowed to go off topic but others aren't. Or if I should feign being confused about that. But my response was in large part to your off or on topic question.

And I think it was a very relevant response to your question. And I didn't expect that you would respond to it. Nor that you would even be able to respond to it.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

In this thread you asked "What road real or imagined with Trump take us down???

I don't know if that was off topic. Or if you're allowed to go off topic but others aren't. Or if I should feign being confused about that. But my response was in large part to your off or on topic question.

And I think it was a very relevant response to your question. And I didn't expect that you would respond to it. Nor that you would even be ale to respond to it.

well I can say much to that line of thought, Fear of our Goverment over another and excuse it away with They have always done so. The U.S. has always played in other country's politics. It's standard political procedure.



so I spoke about the topic then I questioned where Trump will take us

this is off Topic ok

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Fear of our Goverment over another and excuse it away with They have always done so. The U.S. has always played in other country's politics. It's standard political procedure.

it's not fear of government but what those may do with the power that government can provide if unchecked....like the fear that the leftys are experiencing to the point of needing counseling and pet rock therapy now that Trump is going to assume a government with greatly expanded powers in large part thanks to our friends on the left

so if it's ok for us to play in others politics who are we to whine if others play in ours????