Trumps New Years Tweet

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Boehner said about Mr. Obama's use of the word "enemies"

"Ladies and gentlemen, we have a president in the White House who referred to Americans who disagree with him as 'our enemies.' Think about that. He actually used that word. When Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush used the word 'enemy,' they reserved it for global terrorists and foreign dictators -- enemies of the United States. Enemies of freedom. Enemies of our country. Today, sadly, we have president who uses the word 'enemy' for fellow Americans -- fellow citizens. He uses it for people who disagree with his agenda of bigger government -- people speaking out for a smaller, more accountable government that respects freedom and allows small businesses to create jobs. Mr. President, there's a word for people who have the audacity to speak up in defense of freedom, the Constitution, and the values of limited government that made our country great. We don't call them 'enemies.' We call them 'patriots.'"


Mr. Boehner does not like Trump. Boehner gave Obama almost everything he asked for. He did not "oppose" Obama as much as he could have and as much as his constituents wanted him to do. Boehner was entrenched in office and cared more about keeping his position than doing what his constituents wanted in terms of defunding Obamacare, stopping continuing resolutions, spending more money than we have, and a laundry list of stuff that he failed on. Trump would probably refer to Boehner as a loser. Trump has done more for the Republican party in one election than Boehner did in his years in office. Boehner had an overall negative impact on the power of his Party. He is probably envious of how Trump's political incorrectness has done so much more for the Party than Boehner's political correctness did. Political correctness nearly destroyed his Party. Now Boehner says Trump should have said thus and such rather than so and so. How would Boehner, a "loser," know what should be said. His brand of correctness benefited him personally, but not the Party. Trump doesn't need the political power that Boehner needed in order to gain his wealth. And Boehner's own party did not back him to retain his Speaker status, but gave it to Paul Ryan instead. Which should tell you how much his own Party cared about what Boehner thought was the correct way to speak.

It is not surprising that Boehner painted Trump negatively. He was a political "enemy" of Trump.


Mr.Obama told Baisden that he should have used the word, "opponents," rather than "enemies"

But he did say "enemies." And he did say that we will punish them. And he knew perfectly well what actual words he spoke, and how those words would be received and understood, and what effect they would have. That mission was accomplished. Replacing a word later with a nicer one wouldn't make any difference other than giving an ex post facto illusion that he is a nice and correct guy.

I have yet to see Trump Correct his usage of the word as Obama did.. shocking

And you usually won't. Get over it. It's the way he talks. Everybody knows that by now.Taking him literally every time, or being put out by his choice of words is misleading, unless you intentionally impute meanings to his words that he obviously did not intend. The twitter was classic Trump sarcasm. Taking it more than that is ignorant.

Seems The rights outrage over the POTUS using the word enemy evaporates with Trumps usage how surprising

I can only speak for myself, not for the right. I didn't detect anything nefarious or war-like in his use of the word "enemies." I instantly grasped that he was referring to political enemies. "Political enemies" is a phrase in very common usage.

It's not surprising that you seem to be implying that he meant something more sinister than political "enemies." So, do you care to spell out what he was actually saying other than political opponents. And where he said that Americans, specifically, are his enemies

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I can only speak for myself, not for the right. I didn't detect anything nefarious or war-like in his use of the word "enemies."

So, do you care to spell out what he was actually saying other than political opponents. And where he said that Americans, specifically, are his enemies Now you want specifics? maybe you need to read his Tweet he sent out to the public in a forum where 1 can not ask questions of trump who he was referring to as enemies ?which is the way he wants it ...
then re read the republicans response to Obama's use of enemies this time with objectivity then you'll see my concern

And people were saying Obama was acting like a Dictator . and Some think Trump Isn't?

[detbuch]

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Originally Posted by detbuch
I can only speak for myself, not for the right. I didn't detect anything nefarious or war-like in his use of the word "enemies."

So, do you care to spell out what he was actually saying other than political opponents. And where he said that Americans, specifically, are his enemies

[QUOTE=wdmso;1114568]Now you want specifics? maybe you need to read his Tweet he sent out to the public in a forum where 1 can not ask questions of trump who he was referring to as enemies ?which is the way he wants it ...
then re read the republicans response to Obama's use of enemies this time with objectivity then you'll see my concern

Originally Posted by wdmso

And people were saying Obama was acting like a Dictator . and Some think Trump Isn't?

I spoke for myself, not for Republicans, or "the right," or "some people." I asked you to speak for yourself. Is that too difficult? You are, after all, the one who brought up the subject.

Speaking for myself, as far as what I think Obama meant when he referred to his enemies and punishing them, in my opinion he was referring to the battle of ideas he was waging with whom he considered traditional American Conservatives. The political fight with whom he considered bigots and clingers to outdated and unfair values, including the Constitution.

I think differently about traditional American conservative values. And, especially, I think differently about the Constitution and the system of government that it creates. I think that our constitutional system of government protects individual freedom.

I think that Obama's version of government suppresses individual freedom. That government, in my opinion of his view, decides what rights are and who can have them.

I think that his vision of government is dictatorial.

I am not sure what Trump's vision of government is. He seems to have some dictatorial notions. My only concern in this election was nominees for the Supreme Court. I considered that the Republican candidate would be better for that choice rather than any Democrat candidate.

That is my briefest statement on the subject. I have briefly stated my personal opinion of what I thought Trump meant by "enemies." And I have done the same re Obama's use of the word.

Are you able to do that?