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Old 01-10-2017, 10:58 AM   #1
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Many people lose faith and re find it somewhere else or in another religion or form of Christianity..

Really? Gee golly, whoda thunk? Quite an amazing and enlightening fact that very few people are aware of. Thanks for letting us be aware of this obscure fact.

This is just another Anti islam video taken hook line and sinkers by the Anti islam crowd

Right. The "crowd." You, of course, are not taken "hook line and sinkers" by the pro-Islam crowd.

its only enlightening for 1 reason he is a convert..

What's so enlightening about that? You've said in the first sentence of your post that many people convert.

However if he was a devout Muslim born in America no one would give him the time of day to hear why he loves islam ..

Actually, many people, a veritable "crowd," have given devout Muslims the time of day and accepted hook, line, and sinker what they have to say. And the convert in the video was born in America to a devout Muslim family. But, then, of course, the wrong "crowd" took him "hook line and sinkers."

FYI
there were an estimated 50,000 Christians in the Palestinian territories, mostly in the West Bank, with about 3,000 in the Gaza Strip. Of the total Christian population of 154,000 in Israel, about 80% are designated as Arabs, many of whom self-identify as Palestinian. Seems you can be both
FYI
the number of Christians in the Middle East is dwindling. At one time, Christians were the majority in the "Palestinian territories." Of course, that changed drastically because most "lost their faith and found it" in Islam--when Mohammad and his followers gave them a choice they couldn't refuse. You know, that little convert or die thingy (or become a third class cash cow for the Muslim State). Oh, and most of those early Christians were Arabs. Oh, that's right, the first Christians were Semites (Arabs or Jews), not Europeans or fundamentalist Americans. So, yeah, you're absolutely correct. They can be both Christian and Arab.

Wow. You keep coming up with these stunning, obscure facts. Thanks for the enlightenment.

For me, the video was enlightening not because he is a convert or an Arab, or a Palestinian, but because of what he, as an actual Muslim, who studied the actual Islamic sources, had to say about Islam. I apologize for putting you through an insignificant hour of a rather unenlightening "crowd" pleaser (if you actually watched the whole thing--it's mostly the last half that is "enlightening" as to Islam). You, obviously know more about Islam than Hazem Farraj.

Oh . . . would you care to actually discuss what he had to say about Islam?

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Old 01-10-2017, 04:37 PM   #2
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the number of Christians in the Middle East is dwindling. At one time, Christians were the majority in the "Palestinian territories." Of course, that changed drastically because most "lost their faith and found it" in Islam--when Mohammad and his followers gave them a choice they couldn't refuse. You know, that little convert or die thingy (or become a third class cash cow for the Muslim State). Oh, and most of those early Christians were Arabs. Oh, that's right, the first Christians were Semites (Arabs or Jews), not Europeans or fundamentalist Americans. So, yeah, you're absolutely correct. They can be both Christian and Arab.

Wow. You keep coming up with these stunning, obscure facts. Thanks for the enlightenment.

For me, the video was enlightening not because he is a convert or an Arab, or a Palestinian, but because of what he, as an actual Muslim, who studied the actual Islamic sources, had to say about Islam. I apologize for putting you through an insignificant hour of a rather unenlightening "crowd" pleaser (if you actually watched the whole thing--it's mostly the last half that is "enlightening" as to Islam). You, obviously know more about Islam than Hazem Farraj.

Oh . . . would you care to actually discuss what he had to say about Islam?

you post a Video with this commentary "enlightening perspective from an ex-Muslim" and ask if I want to Actually discuss what he had to say???

What he said is how he see's it.. no different then catholic renouncing their faith.. there is no hidden message or silver bullet in what he said

Is That your point ? what one man had to say about Islam?

Or Are you saying he is showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook. Or that he shares the Same outlook you and others Have about Islam?...

So lets make things simple you support his version


Former Muslim (Convert)says Islam is Bad = enlightening perspective from an ex-Muslim

Current Muslim says Islam is Good = not an enlightening perspective from a Muslim


it isn't that easy to define a religion by some of its followers actions ..here are some more obscure facts .but have fun making the association

1. Christianity 2.1 billion
2. Islam 1.3 billion
3. Hinduism 851 million
4. Buddhism 375 million
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Even if all terrorist attacks were carried out by Muslims, you still could not associate terrorism with Islam: There have been 140,000 terror attacks committed worldwide since 1970. Even if Muslims carried out all of these attacks, those terrorists would represent less than 0.00009 percent of all Muslims. To put things into perspective, this means that you are more likely to be struck by lightening in your lifetime than a Muslim is likely to commit a terrorist attack during that same timespan.
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