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01-25-2017, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Is Pres Trump going to put an occupation force into Chicago? Seems he threatened something like that.
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If the mayor is too incompetent to do anything, and innocent people are being slaughtered as a result, should the POTUS do nothing? Obama did nothing to help Chicago, and the data shows that didn't work out so well.
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01-25-2017, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If the mayor is too incompetent to do anything, and innocent people are being slaughtered as a result, should the POTUS do nothing? Obama did nothing to help Chicago, and the data shows that didn't work out so well.
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So what should the mayor do? Where do most of the guns in Chicago come from?
Can Trump send in the occupying force he seems to be threatening to send in? I woud assume it would have to be the Army as the National Guard prob. doesn't have enough men.
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01-25-2017, 03:40 PM
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So what should the mayor do?.
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Maybe he should ask Rudy...
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01-25-2017, 04:23 PM
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Maybe he should ask Rudy...
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Ding ding ding!!! But Rahm will watch his citizens die to the last man, before he asks Rudy for help.
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01-26-2017, 07:56 AM
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Maybe he should ask Rudy...
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What would Rudy tell him?
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01-26-2017, 08:48 AM
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What would Rudy tell him?
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https://www.city-journal.org/html/ho...ory-13197.html
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01-26-2017, 09:03 AM
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Good article. So it was a variety of things that were done. Many of them started before Rudy was mayor.
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01-26-2017, 09:12 AM
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Good article. So it was a variety of things that were done. Many of them started before Rudy was mayor.
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which is why he calls Rudy, since Rudy was there and knows what worked and what didn't. also as you noticed Rudy took the groundwork that was laid out and organized it into a functioning system.
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01-25-2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So what should the mayor do? Where do most of the guns in Chicago come from?
Can Trump send in the occupying force he seems to be threatening to send in? I woud assume it would have to be the Army as the National Guard prob. doesn't have enough men.
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"So what should the mayor do?"
Gee, I dunno Paul.
Oh wait, yes I do. How about trying what we all know, worked like a charm, in New York City, when Guilani took over? Aggressive policing, tough strict sentences for gun offenders. But that's not the liberal way. Stop-and-frisk hurts too many people's feelings, and it's racist that so many blacks are in jail. So let's leave them alone and bury a thousand innocent black people every year, sacrificed on the altar of liberalism. If we can't abort them all out of existence, we can let them kill each other off.
Rahm Emanuel tried textbook liberalism, and I don't know a single human being who would say with a straight face that it worked, especially now that Spence isn't here.
Rudy cleaned up NYC. That cannot be denied. Why can't we say that out loud, and use his tactics as a blueprint?
"Where do most of the guns in Chicago come from?"
I presume from outside of the city. So what? All that shows, is that gun laws are impotent in the face of how many guns are currently out there. So unless you have a plan to confiscate all the guns currently out there, why would you expect go-forward gun laws to have much effect?
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01-26-2017, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"So what should the mayor do?"
Gee, I dunno Paul.
Oh wait, yes I do. How about trying what we all know, worked like a charm, in New York City, when Guilani took over? Aggressive policing, tough strict sentences for gun offenders. But that's not the liberal way. Stop-and-frisk hurts Wasn't that ruled unconstitutional and racially discriminating?too many people's feelings that lack of conservative empathy keeps rearing its ugly head., and it's racist that so many blacks are in jail. So let's leave them alone and bury a thousand innocent black people every yeaWow, almost every thread with you comes back to blacksr, sacrificed on the altar of liberalism. If we can't abort them all out of existence, we can let them kill each other off.
Rahm Emanuel tried textbook liberalism, and I don't know a single human being who would say with a straight face that it worked, especially now that Spence isn't here.But it has worked in other places. So pick out the aberration and apply it to all (hasn't this been a very common theme with you?
Rudy cleaned up NYC. That cannot be denied. Why can't we say that out loud, and use his tactics as a blueprint
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So what tactics? Stop and Frisk?
Can you post any studies that showed it was effective?
Why did crime start going down in other states and countries that didn't do the unconstitutional stop and frisk?
When did crime start going down and when did Rudy implement stop and frisk?
Did the crime rate go back up after they stopped stop and frisk?
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