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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"personally the big bad wolf is a creation to gain control"

I see. The threat of Islamic jihad, is a fabrication, designed to gain control. Tell that to the people who had their legs blown off at the Boston Marathon. Tell that to the people who jumped out of the World Trade Center.

yes Islamic Jihad is a Fabrication and

this fabrications has cost 4,424 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 31,952 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

2,386 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan. 1,834 of these deaths have been the result of hostile action. 20,049 American service members have also been wounded in action during the war. In addition, there were 1,173 U.S. civilian contractor fatalities.

1983 bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut, Lebanon, that killed 241 US service personnel.

all Created By F up US interventions

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

yes Islamic Jihad is a Fabrication

So what happened on 9/11? At Ft Hood? In Boston? In Paris? What organization was Osama Bin Laden the leader of, and what was their goal?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So what happened on 9/11? At Ft Hood? In Boston? In Paris? What organization was Osama Bin Laden the leader of, and what was their goal?

Murder ... what was Timothy McVeigh motive ?? just because it didn't have religion attached it is still terrorism


the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Terrorism

terrorist leaders like Bin Laden use the parts of their religion to control their minions ,, the IRA did the same and Goverments use the counter narrative of freedom and security to justify their action and limit the freedoms they say they support

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Murder ... what was Timothy McVeigh motive ?? just because it didn't have religion attached it is still terrorism


the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Terrorism

terrorist leaders like Bin Laden use the parts of their religion to control their minions ,, the IRA did the same and Goverments use the counter narrative of freedom and security to justify their action and limit the freedoms they say they support

"what was Timothy McVeigh motive ?? "

Anti-federal government. Fair enough?

"just because it didn't have religion attached it is still terrorism"

Agreed 100%. McVeigh was an ultra right wing, anti federal government terrorist. People who bomb abortion clinics are Christian terrorists. But while one is too many of these kooks, there aren't a lot of them. If 1% of Muslims support jihad, that's millions and millions of them.

You seem to be making the case that there are other terrorists besides Islamic jihadists. I don't think anyone disagrees with you. But you also said the notion of Islamic jihad was a fabrication. Not true. Just because not all terrorists are Islamic, doesn't mean there's no such thing as an Islamic terrorist.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"what was Timothy McVeigh motive ?? "

Anti-federal government. Fair enough?

"just because it didn't have religion attached it is still terrorism"

Agreed 100%. McVeigh was an ultra right wing, anti federal government terrorist. People who bomb abortion clinics are Christian terrorists. But while one is too many of these kooks, there aren't a lot of them. If 1% of Muslims support jihad, that's millions and millions of them.

You seem to be making the case that there are other terrorists besides Islamic jihadists. I don't think anyone disagrees with you. But you also said the notion of Islamic jihad was a fabrication. Not true. Just because not all terrorists are Islamic, doesn't mean there's no such thing as an Islamic terrorist.

Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes .. The fabrication I refer is the threat they actually pose to the United states ... thats where I call the BS card

Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes .. The fabrication I refer is the threat they actually pose to the United states ... thats where I call the BS card

Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans

What was the motive of those who killed Americans in the name of Allah?

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans

I am not sure who those researchers are that say that but what about how many Americans have been killed over in those countries by their locals? If they want to torture and kill us over there, then why in God's name would we allow them to come here to our country? seriously wtf how come people don't get it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I am not sure who those researchers are that say that but what about how many Americans have been killed over in those countries by their locals? If they want to torture and kill us over there, then why in God's name would we allow them to come here to our country? seriously wtf how come people don't get it?

Even if they aren't violent people, we need to be very careful about who we let in. We can have different ethnicities, that makes us better as a whole. But we can only have one culture. And these people are not assimilating well, in other western nations, what they do, is establish little enclaves in those western nations that look a lot like the Middle East. No, thanks. The Europeans and Scandanavians are having a real cultural struggle.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes .. The fabrication I refer is the threat they actually pose to the United states ... thats where I call the BS card

Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans

"Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes .. The fabrication I refer is the threat they actually pose to the United states ... thats where I call the BS card "

Well, that is different. We should continually examine the threat they pose, and not over-react to the point it does more harm than good.

"Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans"

The list of countries subject to the ban, came from the Obama administration. Chuck Schumer, after the Paris attacks, suggested a ban might be necessary Now he cries (literally) that it is un-American. That's political BS.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes ..

phew.....thought you'd gone right off the cliff there for a bit

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Let me clarify is there Islamic jihad yes .. The fabrication I refer is the threat they actually pose to the United states ... thats where I call the BS card

Research into terrorist attacks on US soil between 1975 and 2015 shows foreign nationals from those countries have killed no Americans

Really??? What was San Bernadino?
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[wdmso]

Who said that?

Can you stop responding to things that nobody said?


The Administration or Haven't you been listening ..I will use a name if it makes it easier when needed

kelly ann conway
"I think in terms of the upside being greater protection of our borders, of our people, it's a small price to pay."

Trump “We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say
“This is not about religion – this is about terror and keeping our country safe. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days.

Please name one person of influence, just one, who denies that jihadists kill people other than Americans. I cant because the dont admit it its not what they talk about its alway thereout to kill us all


why twist what I said it very clear in the united states the Argument id Framed us against them Trump’s action “is a response to a phantom menace.”

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/...eted-for-death
According to a report recently made public, early this year, ISIS specifically identified 15,000 Christian Americans for death and instructed jihadists already in America to begin widespread murder.


Rudy Giuliani What we did was, we focused on, instead of religion, danger,” the former New York City mayor said, in reference to the targeted nations: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. “Which is a factual basis, not a religious basis. … It’s based on places where there are substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country.”