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Old 02-04-2017, 05:03 PM   #1
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:50 PM   #2
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But the POTUS can tweet this and no one cares

President Trump launched an early morning Twitter offensive against a federal judge Saturday after U.S. District Judge James Robart


The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!

but a nobody tweets against Herr Trump.. and Trump supporters and conservatives were quick to tear Silverman's tweet to shreds, calling for her to be arrested for treason and even using anti-Semitic rhetoric against the Jewish stand-up comedian.

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Old 02-05-2017, 04:49 AM   #3
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1116341]But the POTUS can tweet this and no one cares

President Trump launched an early morning Twitter offensive against a federal judge Saturday after U.S. District Judge James Robart

The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!


nytimes.com Jan 28, 2010 - President Obama aimed unusual rhetorical fire at several Supreme Court justices in his State of the Union address.

CBS NEWS January 28, 2010 Obama took the extraordinary step in Wednesday's State of the Union address of slamming the Supreme Court for last week's decision striking down limits on corporate spending on political advertisements.

Obama's frontal assault on the Supreme Court in a State of the Union is almost unheard of for a President.

" I don't ever remember a Democratic president, in a State of the Union address, take on the Supreme Court for a recent decision and dare Congress to overturn it.

But in his speech, Obama was in your face--blasting the Court and urging Congress to undo the decision.

The justices at first appeared inscrutable as Obama spoke and...... Democrats cheered.

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Old 02-05-2017, 05:07 AM   #4
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Wayne....this judge went beyond the normal scope of his influence...but what he did is within the scope of his powers(seldom used for good reason)....that's fine...but look at his rationale for doing so....

"This emphasis on uniformity was key to Judge Robart’s order. He acknowledged the Trump Administration’s argument that any restraining order should be limited to the two plaintiff states -- Washington and Minnesota. But Judge Robart rejected the request, concluding that a “partial implementation would undermine the constitutional imperative of a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and Congress’s instruction that the immigration laws of the United States should be enforced vigorously and uniformly.”


this is pretty funny considering the fact that Obama and his administration spent the last 8 years picking and choosing which immigration laws they were going to enforce or not enforce....


wonder where this judge was with his broad powers then????


Politico 6/16/12 Obama is relying on federal agencies to ignore, or at least not defend, laws that some of his important supporters — like Hispanic voters and the gay community — don’t like.

“If the president says we’re not going to enforce the law, there’s really nothing anyone can do about it,” University of Pennsylvania constitutional law professor Kermit Roosevelt said. “It’s clearly a political calculation.”

"Sometimes this makes for less-than-ideal policy situations — such as the action we took on immigration — but the president isn’t going to be stonewalled by politics, he will pursue whatever means available to do business on behalf of American people.”

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Wayne....this judge went beyond the normal scope of his influence...but what he did is within the scope of his powers(seldom used for good reason)....that's fine...but look at his rationale for doing so....

"This emphasis on uniformity was key to Judge Robart’s order. He acknowledged the Trump Administration’s argument that any restraining order should be limited to the two plaintiff states -- Washington and Minnesota. But Judge Robart rejected the request, concluding that a “partial implementation would undermine the constitutional imperative of a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and Congress’s instruction that the immigration laws of the United States should be enforced vigorously and uniformly.”


this is pretty funny considering the fact that Obama and his administration spent the last 8 years picking and choosing which immigration laws they were going to enforce or not
enforce....

did oboma ma call them a so-called judge,

wonder where this judge was with his broad powers then????


Politico 6/16/12 Obama is relying on federal agencies to ignore, or at least not defend, laws that some of his important supporters — like Hispanic voters and the gay community — don’t like.

“If the president says we’re not going to enforce the law, there’s really nothing anyone can do about it,” University of Pennsylvania constitutional law professor Kermit Roosevelt said. “It’s clearly a political calculation.”

"Sometimes this makes for less-than-ideal policy situations — such as the action we took on immigration — but the president isn’t going to be stonewalled by politics, he will pursue whatever means available to do business on behalf of American people.”

The right had no issues with Suing Obama over his executive orders
and praised the Judges who sided with them . now the shoes on the other foot ... and we get this judge went beyond the normal scope of his influence. his infuluence is the law ??

wonder where this judge was with his broad powers then???? rather irrelevant seeing Judges can only rule on cases put in front of them

The bigger issue for me is not the order it will runs it legal course.. its Trumps Willingness to openly attack insult people and institutions
because he thinks he is above due process and those people who challenged his Exec orders ... its not a business but he still thinks he can behave as if it is

Did Obama insult the judges ? by call them a so-called judge no he disagree with them in public and said why


if Trump said said this The opinion of this judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned! no issue

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Trump continues to crawl under the very low bar that Obama set over the last 8 years....you should applaud him for sticking to the standard and precedent and not going "rogue" ..
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The right had no issues with Suing Obama over his executive orders
and praised the Judges who sided with them . now the shoes on the other foot ... and we get this judge went beyond the normal scope of his influence. his infuluence is the law ??

wonder where this judge was with his broad powers then???? rather irrelevant seeing Judges can only rule on cases put in front of them

The bigger issue for me is not the order it will runs it legal course.. its Trumps Willingness to openly attack insult people and institutions
because he thinks he is above due process and those people who challenged his Exec orders ... its not a business but he still thinks he can behave as if it is

Did Obama insult the judges ? by call them a so-called judge no he disagree with them in public and said why


if Trump said said this The opinion of this judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned! no issue
Sounds like your trying to make an issue out of something that is not an issue. Unless you're trying to suppress free speech. That would be an issue. Presidents have a long history of insulting people, overtly or back-handedly. That's been a hallmark of being "presidential" as well as pretending to be "moderate."

As for your "but a nobody tweets against Herr Trump.. and Trump supporters and conservatives were quick to tear Silverman's tweet to shreds, calling for her to be arrested for treason and even using anti-Semitic rhetoric against the Jewish stand-up comedian," Americans have always done this sort of thing as is their right. The anti-Semitic rhetoric, if it occurred, is obnoxious and uncalled for, but it is a far cry from destroying property and physically assaulting people which are not part of free speech and are against the law. And it is that riotous, illegal, anti-American behavior that is an issue which leftist rhetoric is currently promoting.
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