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Old 02-09-2017, 05:49 PM   #1
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I’m a classical liberal. A free thinker.
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Old 02-09-2017, 08:23 PM   #2
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Me too.
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:13 AM   #3
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I can't think of the name of the movie at the moment, it was on recently..classic...name of a flower in the title...but there is a great exchange between a mother and a daughter...the mother, very liberal and free-thinking, tracks down her daughter who has gone off with some religious friends...the mother is apoplectic not understanding why or how the daughter could leave, scoffing at the thought of religion....she exclaims "how could this happen...I taught you to think for yourself!!"...the daughter calmly replies...."no you didn't, you taught me to think like you"......it's like that
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I can't think of the name of the movie at the moment, it was on recently..classic...name of a flower in the title...but there is a great exchange between a mother and a daughter...the mother, very liberal and free-thinking, tracks down her daughter who has gone off with some religious friends...the mother is apoplectic not understanding why or how the daughter could leave, scoffing at the thought of religion....she exclaims "how could this happen...I taught you to think for yourself!!"...the daughter calmly replies...."no you didn't, you taught me to think like you"......it's like that
Here is a good example of thinking for yourself.

Roughly half of Americans who support President Trump's controversial travel executive order say that the ban is justified after the nonexistent "Bowling Green Massacre," according to a new poll by the left-leaning Public Policy Polling.

White House counsellor Kellyanne Conway referred to the massacre, which never happened, during several media appearances, including a segment on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews." Over the course of the interview, the senior White House aide made several references to a "massacre" in Bowling Green, Ky. as justification for the banning citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries from travel to the United States.

Still, of those who support it, 51 percent thought Conway's remarks about the massacre showed good reason to pursue the Jan. 27 order, which barred citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from traveling to the U.S. Only about 23 percent of the ban's supporters said the ban couldn't use the massacre as justification.
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Roughly half of Americans who support President Trump's controversial travel executive order say that the ban is justified after the nonexistent "Bowling Green Massacre," according to a new poll by the left-leaning Public Policy Polling.

White House counsellor Kellyanne Conway referred to the massacre, which never happened, during several media appearances, including a segment on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews." Over the course of the interview, the senior White House aide made several references to a "massacre" in Bowling Green, Ky. as justification for the banning citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries from travel to the United States.

Still, of those who support it, 51 percent thought Conway's remarks about the massacre showed good reason to pursue the Jan. 27 order, which barred citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from traveling to the U.S. Only about 23 percent of the ban's supporters said the ban couldn't use the massacre as justification.
Give us an example of thinking for yourself re the ban. Is the ban valid per the statute which gives the President power to create such a ban? Think for yourself. Don't depend on lawyers or judges. There is obviously disagreement among them. One judge already decided in court that the ban was constitutional. Now, thinking for yourself, tell us how the ban is not constitutional.
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Seems like you're still angry about that other thread
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:02 PM   #7
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Seems like you're still angry about that other thread
So you can't think for yourself. Avoid answering the question with your fall-back "your angry" meme again.

(I answered you in "the other thread" and pointed out that your article did not prove intent. It only implied it. So there was nothing for me to be angry about. Sooo . . . when someone keeps accusing someone else of something which is not true, psychologists might consider that to be a condition called "projection." Since you seem to see anger in others when it isn't there, it is quite probable that you are projecting. (Projecting your own predilection on someone else.)

Or you're just replacing snark for thought and inability to successfully debate.)

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it's really amazing how many Big Government leftists have suddenly become huge fans of limited government, separation of powers, strict readings of the Constitution and law... etc..
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it's really amazing how many Big Government leftists have suddenly become huge fans of limited government, separation of powers, strict readings of the Constitution and law... etc..
Who would those many be ? For me I agree limited government comsertives want no government .
separations of powers again yes.. consertives only want it when rulings swing their way when they don't its the judges fault .. strict reading of the constitution seems only again to apply to issues comsertives support they only support the 3 branch's of government when they think they control all 3 branches


Who has done more for individual rights and Who has done more to restrict individuals rights and advance corporate American I know my answer and it's not based on a feeling
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For me I agree limited government comsertives want no government .
please offer any evidence that conservatives want no government
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