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03-06-2017, 01:08 PM
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With all the crap the Democrats have done from getting the questions before the debates to sabotaging Bernie Sanders campaign, does anybody really doubt that they didn't try to spy on Donald Trump? Hell they even illegally stole his tax information .
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03-06-2017, 03:51 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
With all the crap the Democrats have done from getting the questions before the debates to sabotaging Bernie Sanders campaign, does anybody really doubt that they didn't try to spy on Donald Trump? Hell they even illegally stole his tax information .
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If it turns out in the end the Trump campaign staff and possibly Trump himself, were in fact getting help from Russia to influence the election, the wire tap FISA order (if it happened) would certainly be justified. I certainly would be 100% behind any surveillance of Russian influence to deliberately influence our electoral process. As long as it was requested through the correct process, approved for national security reasons and in front of the proper judicial court; not done in a Tricky #^&#^&#^&#^& manor. |
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03-06-2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
If it turns out in the end the Trump campaign staff and possibly Trump himself, were in fact getting help from Russia to influence the election, the wire tap FISA order (if it happened) would certainly be justified. I certainly would be 100% behind any surveillance of Russian influence to deliberately influence our electoral process. As long as it was requested through the correct process, approved for national security reasons and in front of the proper judicial court; not done in a Tricky #^&#^&#^&#^& manor.
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That's a lot of "ifs" and it would've been done politically to influence the outcome of the election . Let's remember that the Justice Department had become a political instrument of the Obama administration and was clearly used to further Obama's agenda.
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03-06-2017, 05:13 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Every news cast if filled with a lot of IFS, hopefully the BS comes to an end soon and we know the facts.
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03-06-2017, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Every news cast if filled with a lot of IFS, hopefully the BS comes to an end soon and we know the facts.
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In an unrelated story speaking of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& that makes you laugh , I just watched Chuck Schumer say of the GOP's health care repeal bill " they don't want the American people to know what's in it and they're just trying to rush it through ". Lmao
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03-07-2017, 05:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
That's a lot of "ifs" and it would've been done politically to influence the outcome of the election . Let's remember that the Justice Department had become a political instrument of the Obama administration and was clearly used to further Obama's agenda.
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You're right, it's much easier to believe that the president illegally manipulated multiple branches of government to spy on a rival than it would be to believe that a man, surrounded by people colluding with Russians (and hiding it) would have had legal probable cause to have communications with those surrogates monitored by the FBI/DOJ. Clearly this is the only reasonable explanation, and any facts that lead us from this already foregone conclusion are only manufactured by those in our shadow government who will do anything to protect the real truth from coming out.
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03-07-2017, 06:13 AM
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Trump did a nice job co-opting "fake news" from the left...he should acquire "facts and truth" as being exclusively his and really send them through the roof...  |
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03-07-2017, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian
You're right, it's much easier to believe that the president illegally manipulated multiple branches of government to spy on a rival than it would be to believe that a man, surrounded by people colluding with Russians (and hiding it) would have had legal probable cause to have communications with those surrogates monitored by the FBI/DOJ. Clearly this is the only reasonable explanation, and any facts that lead us from this already foregone conclusion are only manufactured by those in our shadow government who will do anything to protect the real truth from coming out.
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And your evidence that Trump surrogates were colluding with Russia would be ?
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03-07-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
And your evidence that Trump surrogates were colluding with Russia would be ?
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That they met with them.
When Democratic Senators meet with Russians, they are just doing their job. And doing a damn fine job, at that.
When Senator Jeff Sessions meets with the Russians, he is up to no good. No other possible explanation. Got it?
I thought the left went a bit funny in the head when Bush was president. Now, they have become completely un-glued, non-stop conspiracy theories and tin-foil hat paranoia. They are deep, deep into the Twilight Zone. They are making Howard Dean look rational and grounded. |
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03-08-2017, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That they met with them.
When Democratic Senators meet with Russians, they are just doing their job. And doing a damn fine job, at that.
When Senator Jeff Sessions meets with the Russians, he is up to no good. No other possible explanation. Got it?
I thought the left went a bit funny in the head when Bush was president. Now, they have become completely un-glued, non-stop conspiracy theories and tin-foil hat paranoia. They are deep, deep into the Twilight Zone. They are making Howard Dean look rational and grounded.
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Thank you, you've proven my point
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03-07-2017, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
a man, surrounded by people colluding with Russians
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James Clapper, Obama's head of National Intelligence, said he has not seen any evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign colluding with Russians. |
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03-07-2017, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
James Clapper, Obama's head of National Intelligence, said he has not seen any evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign colluding with Russians.
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meanwhile.....
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...wiretap-claims |
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