What motivates ISIS recruits?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

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Then we should be expecting an American ISIS any minute now.

Oh wait . . . American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare. Like terrorists around the world (and like the defector in the video), they are driven by ideology.

American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare.

Not yet anyway ....

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare.

[COLOR=S"RoyalBlue"]Not yet anyway ....[/COLOR]

So you're predicting that we are going to have an ISIS type terrorist group in America because someone, as you said, came along and told Americans someone else is taking their jobs pay them minimum wage deny their healthcare and everyone is against Christians?

Other than that health care has not nor will not be denied, Christianity is not founded on terrorism as Islam is, minimum wage is (erroneously) supposed to provide better income not deny it, and jobs have always gone to someone else who is willing to do them better or for less money . . . other than your BS characterization, why do you predict we will have an ISIS type terrorist movement in America?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So you're predicting that we are going to have an ISIS type terrorist group in America because someone, as you said, came along and told Americans someone else is taking their jobs pay them minimum wage deny their healthcare and everyone is against Christians?

Other than that health care has not nor will not be denied, Christianity is not founded on terrorism as Islam is, minimum wage is (erroneously) supposed to provide better income not deny it, and jobs have always gone to someone else who is willing to do them better or for less money . . . other than your BS characterization, why do you predict we will have an ISIS type terrorist movement in America?

its not a prediction a possibility

I never said we have ISIS type terrorist movement in America? thats you making stuff up

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

its not a prediction a possibility

Why choose that possibility? There are unlimited possibilities. It's "probably" quite likely that what you say is possible won't actually happen. It's "probably" more likely that the country will get better rather than the likelihood that we will have terrorists because of the way you characterized America.

I never said we have ISIS type terrorist movement in America? thats you making stuff up

Then you changed the subject. The subject of this thread is ISIS recruitment. And your characterization of America as a country in which someone comes along and tells Americans that someone else is taking their jobs, pays them minimum wage, denies them healthcare, and everyone is against Christians, was all a response to Eben's post which was about ISIS and its recruitment methods. So I assumed that your "possibility" was that because of your pathetic characterization of America that American terrorists would result from that negative characterization.

And I didn't say that you said we have an ISIS type terrorist movement in America. I assumed that your ""Not yet anyway . . ." was a prediction that we would have one.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Then you changed the subject. The subject of this thread is ISIS recruitment. And your characterization of America as a country in which someone comes along and tells Americans that someone else is taking their jobs, pays them minimum wage, denies them healthcare, and everyone is against Christians, was all a response to Eben's post which was about ISIS and its recruitment methods. So I assumed that your "possibility" was that because of your pathetic characterization of America that American terrorists would result from that negative characterization.

And I didn't say that you said we have an ISIS type terrorist movement in America. I assumed that your ""Not yet anyway . . ." was a prediction that we would have one.

Lets be honest about subject.. your post had little to do about ISIS recruitment. Rather it had more to do with trying to Insulate Trump from suggestions he's being used as a material for ISIS ( a gotcha video) My point was How easy it is it is even in America to rally people with False Statement and fear.. with a selective message or did you you miss that ?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Lets be honest about subject.. your post had little to do about ISIS recruitment. Rather it had more to do with trying to Insulate Trump from suggestions he's being used as a material for ISIS ( a gotcha video) My point was How easy it is it is even in America to rally people with False Statement and fear.. with a selective message or did you you miss that ?

It's a little less than amazing how you keep accusing others, me included, of making stuff up, especially about accusing you of saying something you didn't say. Yet you blithely make stuff up and tell others, me included, what I supposedly really was saying.

Here, you're first sentence hints that I wasn't being honest. Well, again, you're making stuff up. Of !COURSE! I was pointing out that accusations against Trump being a recruiter for ISIS is a stretch which misses the most fundamental motivation for joining ISIS. ISIS would exist and recruit with or without Trump. Trying to make him a recruiter because of what he has said (let's be honest, as you say) is political fodder to make him look bad. That was one of the many ways of trying to make him look bad compared to Hillary during the campaign. Where did I hide or try to be sneaky about pointing that out? It was obvious. So obvious that even you saw my intent. Hurray. THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED!

And the video WAS specifically about ISIS recruitment. And, as usual, you totally disregard commenting on the actual video and make stuff up about my being dishonest. And, as usual, you deflect from the video so that you can maintain that what Trump says contributes to ISIS recruitment. The fundamental reason fighters join ISIS is ideological, as the defector in the video points out. If Trump had said nothing, the same would still apply. And if he did say nothing, he would be dishonest. As you say, let's be honest.