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Old 07-25-2017, 01:46 PM   #1
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Pretty easy to find the Boy Scout Oath on their web page.
I think he meant that the Oath was not central to his speech.

I think it was great he went to recognize the BSA, and just when you think you are ready to give him some bon mots for acting presidential, he goes and gives that overtly political, grandstanding rambling speech for that audience. I don't think the kids learned much hearing about his buddies yacht or how red the map was on the screens on election night....

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I think he meant that the Oath was not central to his speech.

I think it was great he went to recognize the BSA, and just when you think you are ready to give him some bon mots for acting presidential, he goes and gives that overtly political, grandstanding rambling speech for that audience. I don't think the kids learned much hearing about his buddies yacht or how red the map was on the screens on election night....
Right, but it was OK for Obama to grandstand on dead bodies in order to push his gun control agenda every time there was a tragedy . Bull#^&#^&#^&#^& double standard as usual
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Right, but it was OK for Obama to grandstand on dead bodies in order to push his gun control agenda every time there was a tragedy . Bull#^&#^&#^&#^& double standard as usual
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Did you see me on here praising Obama's every speech? There are times when they went too far pushing that message, absolutely, although you could argue that is also a fairly pertinent time to discuss that topic.

Two wrongs don't make a right, can't any Trumpers admit that yup Trump gave a stupid speech at the BSA. Obama (yes I know it was videotaped) gave a nice, succinct speech on the positives and legacy of the BSA and wished them a great next 100 years. Trump couldn't even mention loyalty without saying 'we need more of that (wink wink Jeff Sessions)'

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can't any Trumpers admit that yup Trump gave a stupid speech at the BSA.
Can't anybody admit that maybe he gave a decent speech, but said a few things that would have been better off left out.

By the way....not even close to being a "Trumper"


Was it more stupid to bring up politics at the scout jamboree, or to bring up blacks that were shot at the memorial service of 4 dallas officers that were killed?

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Can't anybody admit that maybe he gave a decent speech, but said a few things that would have been better off left out.

By the way....not even close to being a "Trumper"


Was it more stupid to bring up politics at the scout jamboree, or to bring up blacks that were shot at the memorial service of 4 dallas officers that were killed?
The point is that he can't help himself where if he is giving a good speech he needs to Veer off and start saying stupid stuff. When he reads from the teleprompter you can tell every time when he ad libs whether it's a word or two. He just cannot help himself. Comparing president Trump to any prior president and trying to defend his stupid speeches versus their stupid speeches would be a total waste of time.
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The point is that he can't help himself where if he is giving a good speech he needs to Veer off and start saying stupid stuff. When he reads from the teleprompter you can tell every time when he ad libs whether it's a word or two. He just cannot help himself. Comparing president Trump to any prior president and trying to defend his stupid speeches versus their stupid speeches would be a total waste of time.
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The point is that this is such a Non-story its ridiculous.

BSA spends it entire time trying to turn boys into fine young men and productive citizens, to be self reliant, and to make sound decisions based on an appreciation of a core set of values....

But Trump talks about politics in front of them and all of a sudden "They're only boys"

well, the "Boys" handled it in a very grownup fashion....which is more than I can say for a lot of other people losing their $hit over it this week.

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The point is that this is such a Non-story its ridiculous.After 8 years of hearing how Obama visited 57 states, pictures of him in mom jeans and outrage over how he would greet a foreign leader (and ever other petty, whiney thing the right could think of) it seems like commenting on our Pres. Trump's constant lying and continued crying about the loser in the last elections is off limits

BSA spends it entire time trying to turn boys into fine young men, productive citizens, self reliant, and to make sound decisions based on an appreciation of a core set of values....

But Trump talks about politics in front of them and all of a sudden "They're only boys" The point is he can't separate anything from politics. He constantly whines about Obama and Clinton.

well, the "Boys" handled it in a very grownup fashion....which is more than I can say for a lot of other people losing their $hit over it this week.
I can't recall you saying anyone was losing there $#^&#^&#^&#^& when the right here was posting petty, whiney, childish things about Pres. Obama (and I'm not talking about legitimate political complaints). - Do a search how much time was spent talking about how much golf he played or vac. he took.
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You're right, he can't. No one is denying that. The majority of people who voted for him, seem to be willing to admit his many flaws. That's the difference between this president and the former.
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Can't anybody admit that maybe he gave a decent speech, but said a few things that would have been better off left out.

By the way....not even close to being a "Trumper"


Was it more stupid to bring up politics at the scout jamboree, or to bring up blacks that were shot at the memorial service of 4 dallas officers that were killed?
GREAT posts TDF.

Much of Trump's speech was awesome, great stuff directed at the scouts. I heard him telling them to find their passion, and never stop pursuing it. Those were great words.

It would be nice if he could leave the political jabs, and self-congratulations, out of a speech to kids. But that's not who he is.

But to suggest that one needs to "look hard" to find anything positive, appropriate, or non-political in that speech, is absurd.

Some of these Trump haters are going to have a long, long four years.

I think he is morally disgusting. Some of hi speech reflected that. Some of hi speech, as TDF posted, was great. Some of you can't acknowledege that. Which makes you irrational.
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can't any Trumpers admit that yup Trump gave a stupid speech at the BSA. '
Thats never going to happen .. they have amnesia what happen the previous 8 years... some how in 2016 they expect the rules have changed and and feel the POTUS is above reproach and none of his issues are real they are made up by the Deep state and the fake media .

and they believe it all of it . without question


The Trump administration is proposing to completely repeal Obama-era standards governing hydraulic fracturing on federal land.

Trump administration moves closer to undoing overtime pay rule

so much for standing up for and helping the little guy
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Thats never going to happen .. they have amnesia what happen the previous 8 years... some how in 2016 they expect the rules have changed and and feel the POTUS is above reproach and none of his issues are real they are made up by the Deep state and the fake media .

and they believe it all of it . without question


The Trump administration is proposing to completely repeal Obama-era standards governing hydraulic fracturing on federal land.

Trump administration moves closer to undoing overtime pay rule

so much for standing up for and helping the little guy
Do you follow "Occupy Democrats " on FB by chance ?
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.. they have amnesia what happen the previous 8 years... some how in 2016 they expect the rules have changed and and feel the POTUS is above reproach and none of his issues are real they are made up by the Deep state and the fake media .

and they believe it all of it . without question

this is a great example of "fake news"
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Did you see me on here praising Obama's every speech? There are times when they went too far pushing that message, absolutely, although you could argue that is also a fairly pertinent time to discuss that topic.

Two wrongs don't make a right, can't any Trumpers admit that yup Trump gave a stupid speech at the BSA. Obama (yes I know it was videotaped) gave a nice, succinct speech on the positives and legacy of the BSA and wished them a great next 100 years. Trump couldn't even mention loyalty without saying 'we need more of that (wink wink Jeff Sessions)'
I'm still trying to get over the initial shock that the left is now concerned about the Boy Scouts 😂
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Right, but it was OK for Obama to grandstand on dead bodies in order to push his gun control agenda every time there was a tragedy . Bull#^&#^&#^&#^& double standard as usual
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DS, shouldn't you be the one not talking about double standards? Do you want me to post up more of your typical double standards?

Let's pull up some of those important posts where time was spent discussing Obama's mom pants or whether he really visited 57 statsthe
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