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Old 08-10-2017, 07:04 AM   #1
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I hope we don't go to war.

Any line in the sand, regardless by whom is stupid.
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Old 08-10-2017, 07:54 AM   #2
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Any line in the sand, regardless by whom is stupid.
yeah...just ask Assad


when exactly did Trump say this?....Wayne asked and you implied...Obama actually had a "line'...then not so much...

Obama said in 2012 that his red line with the Assad regime would be the use of chemical weapons. Later that year, Assad's forces killed nearly 1,500 people in a chemical-weapons attack.

But then Obama got cold feet ...

you guys shouldn't put words in Trump's mouth...he has enough trouble without you divining secret messages from his ramblings
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Old 08-10-2017, 08:34 AM   #3
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when exactly did Trump say this?....Wayne asked and you impliedno, I said "Trump implied" ...Obama actually had a "line'...then not so much...
Don't have to put words in anyone's mouth.

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... he has been very threatening beyond a normal state. They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before," he said.

So that actually is a "line".

That same day NK threatened again, thus crossing it.

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Old 08-10-2017, 08:54 AM   #4
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no, I said "Trump implied"

(I)Don't have to put words in anyone's mouth.

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... he has been very threatening beyond a normal state. They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before," he said.

So that actually is a "line". he didn't say line...Obama said "line"

That same day NK threatened again, thus crossing it.
physical threats or verbal threats?...oh that's right...it's "words" that upset the left more.....even promoting violence and issuing beatings over language they find offensive...soooo..maybe they should applaud Trump for being so aggressive toward the N Korean violent sounding "hate speech" ( are they protected under the first amendment)?

if you imply from what you decide someone else has implied you are essentially putting words in their mouth
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physical threats or verbal threats?...oh that's right...it's "words" that upset the left more.....even promoting violence and issuing beatings over language they find offensive...soooo..maybe they should applaud Trump for being so aggressive toward the N Korean violent sounding "hate speech" ( are they protected under the first amendment)?

if you imply from what you decide someone else has implied you are essentially putting words in their mouth
You're trying to make a destinction bt Obama saying the word "line" and Trump not using the actual word as if there is a difference. You're smarter than that.

No one is putting words in his mouth, those are his actual words. He said NK better not make any more threats - (which they did a few hours later) bc they would be be met with fury and fire. (actually the speach writers are putting words in his mouth- and when he strays from those speaches is when he gets in trouble).
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You're trying to make a destinction bt Obama saying the word "line" and Trump not using the actual word as if there is a difference.
well...there is ....Obama was very specific as to what constituted crossing his stated "line"...it was crossed and he turtled...and now a bazillion people are either dead or displaced ....I think Spence told us Obama played that one brilliantly too

Trump was less clear regarding a line or what constituted crossing the line that you infer from his rhetoric...I guess you can also infer it would require physical aggression...but who knows?...Trump is pretty crazy

and as we know...it probably depends on what the meaning of the work "line"..is...
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