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08-18-2017, 08:36 AM
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I can see a distinction bt a statue to the conferderate soldiers and to someone like Lee. Also, from what I have seen there seems to be a correlation bt when the statues got put up and when significant gains where made by minorities.
And I don't believe for a moment this was solely about a protest to leave statues up. If so, why the vile chants, the use of the torches, etc.
I haven't read all the posts but who are the good people who marched w/the Neo Nazis?
Can someone explain what is meant by "good"?
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08-18-2017, 09:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
I can see a distinction bt a statue to the conferderate soldiers and to someone like Lee. Also, from what I have seen there seems to be a correlation bt when the statues got put up and when significant gains where made by minorities.
And I don't believe for a moment this was solely about a protest to leave statues up. If so, why the vile chants, the use of the torches, etc.
I haven't read all the posts but who are the good people who marched w/the Neo Nazis?
Can someone explain what is meant by "good"?
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"And I don't believe for a moment this was solely about a protest to leave statues up"
Agreed, for many of the Nazis, it was just an excuse to vent their garden-variety racist fantasies. I don't think there were too may noted historians in that crowd who were afraid of losing monuments to history.
"why the vile chants"
I can say the same exact thing about Black Lives Matter. Something about wanting dead cops. And they got it. There are jerks out there. That's why the vile chants.
"are the good people who marched w/the Neo Nazis"
I have absolutely no idea, I don't think that was a wise choice of words. |
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08-19-2017, 04:08 AM
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wrong place
Last edited by wdmso; 08-19-2017 at 04:09 AM..
Reason: wrong place
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08-18-2017, 01:51 PM
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Couple things, some of the lore and some of the statues are for the people that led those that defended their homes and some are considered memorials to those that were led and perished. Yes, some use them as symbols of hate.
Many of these statues and those they were modeled after, were part of the recovery from that war. No matter how poorly done.
When the Civil War was over, Lincoln had great hopes to pull people back together and mend our country. That may have happened much better had not some fool actor and his conspirators murdered Lincoln.
Reconstruction after the war was horrible and furthered our division.
Personally, I think it is up to the people that live in the districts to determine, by vote if necessary, on whether or not to remove them from public grounds. Not for those of us far and away to decide for them.
On private grounds, that is more up to the individual facilities.
As a northerner I have no great connection to those leaders but I can learn from them and respect some of their acts while still deploring others.
But we cannot and should not remove history. Thirty years ago I went to Dachacu and it leaves an impression on me to this day. What would some future generation know about the atrocities of WWII and the real Nazis if that is removed?
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08-18-2017, 02:15 PM
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"Before landing the Charlottesville mayor job he previously worked closely with Podesta at the Center of American Progress and worked with him again on Barack Obama’s State Department Transition Team.George Soros, Obama, Podesta, Hillary Clinton and company, are pulling out all the stops to create division through chaos and destruction for one purpose – to destroy President Donald Trump.
Crowds of paid protesters and useful psychopaths are being sent into pitched battle against one another to sour the mood of the nation and further divide us all."
Michael Signer, the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests – despite police protests against the orders.
http://truthuncensored.net/charlotte...ace-war-video/
difficult to believe this is true but if the cops follow orders like sheep, maybe it is true. they want to destroy the country from within. I'm sure this will be reported on MSNBC shortly
listen to the video if you can |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-18-2017, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
"Before landing the Charlottesville mayor job he previously worked closely with Podesta at the Center of American Progress and worked with him again on Barack Obama’s State Department Transition Team.George Soros, Obama, Podesta, Hillary Clinton and company, are pulling out all the stops to create division through chaos and destruction for one purpose – to destroy President Donald Trump.
Crowds of paid protesters and useful psychopaths are being sent into pitched battle against one another to sour the mood of the nation and further divide us all."
Michael Signer, the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests – despite police protests against the orders.
http://truthuncensored.net/charlotte...ace-war-video/
difficult to believe this is true but if the cops follow orders like sheep, maybe it is true. they want to destroy the country from within. I'm sure this will be reported on MSNBC shortly
listen to the video if you can |
The truth shall set you free.
http://www.snopes.com/were-police-to...arlottesville/
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08-18-2017, 03:36 PM
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Well, then there might be something to all that Faux media paranoia out there, because I had read that on a couple of other news websites.
Irresponsible journalism???
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08-18-2017, 04:09 PM
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Well, then there might be something to all that Faux media paranoia out there, because I had read that on a couple of other news websites.
Irresponsible journalism???
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Honestly, I'd say yes. The media has orgasms over stuff like this. Race tensions boost ratings and forget about click bait bs "news" sites that get shared all over Facebook.
All I know for sure is that someone wants the people of this country divided and bickering so we can not unite and see that there are some serious crooks fleecing this country at high levels of government... corrupt politicians, government contractors and business owners who are making bank off the back of the 99% of this country.
But those Mexicans!!!! They are the real problem. Bad hombres!!! 
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08-18-2017, 04:26 PM
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rally in Boston
tomorrow... http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/08/1...-preparations/
I read this article..the headline is BRILLIANT.....lots of consternation, posturing, warning and generally troubling concerns over the crisis of free speech...
it only mentions the organizers one time = "Boston Free Speech Coalition" ????....who????...sounds menacing
never heard of them...what ...like.....5 members registered online or something????
enough to close down the city of Boston for the day apparently?...a hateful word or phrase has yet to be muttered...
Southern Poverty Law Center(as offering advice to Mayor Knucklehead) is mentioned, and whom I've heard of and am very aware of their dubious dealings
what the hell is going on????
these fruitcake politicians and media milk this crap for all it's worth...if it's such a problem don't approve the freaking permit based on all of your moaning and kvetching ....
warning...warning...danger Will Robinson |
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08-18-2017, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
Honestly, I'd say yes. The media has orgasms over stuff like this. Race tensions boost ratings and forget about click bait bs "news" sites that get shared all over Facebook.
All I know for sure is that SOMEONE wants the people of this country divided and bickering so we can not unite and see that there are some serious crooks fleecing this country at high levels of government... corrupt politicians, government contractors and business owners who are making bank off the back of the 99% of this country.
But those Mexicans!!!! They are the real problem. Bad hombres!!!
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And you KNOW who that someone is don't you? That's right, George Soros
maybe it is fake, maybe not
All I know is that as time passes, more conspiracy theories have turned out to be reality not theories.
Hopefully the rally in Boston doesn't end up violent of a piss bottle fight. I would not be within 20 miles of that place. |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-19-2017, 03:56 AM
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Just like stand down order in benghazi |
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