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08-31-2017, 10:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by redlite
Well witnessed a whole bunch of boats that looked like a flotillia makin repeated drifts in the canal from keene st up to half way gate from about 1 -3 this mornin and heard quite a few fish hittin decks. Unbelievable that that that many had the cajones to say f it and get away with it. Disturbing that that many were able to get away with it that long with no patrol. Dumbfounding
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Are you joking, Mike? That's f'n ridiculous.
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08-31-2017, 10:16 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Money always brings out the best in people.
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08-31-2017, 10:43 AM
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GrandBob
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,547
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maybe they skipped on past the islands and landed at The End?
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08-31-2017, 04:04 PM
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User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlite
Well witnessed a whole bunch of boats that looked like a flotillia makin repeated drifts in the canal from keene st up to half way gate from about 1 -3 this mornin and heard quite a few fish hittin decks. Unbelievable that that that many had the cajones to say f it and get away with it. Disturbing that that many were able to get away with it that long with no patrol. Dumbfounding
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The canal cops don't come on til 7:30 or 8:00 AM
The EP boat only shows up at night for the Scorton bite
CG only on weekend safety checks.....
Carry on
4 trips from last Thursday to Monday got stopped by each on different days,,,
Had a stay out of jail card for the CG, boarded within the last 12 months.. :-)
4 trips in of 5 days and stopped 3 times,,, can't say what I really want to , but u can imagine,,, live free or die MF'r
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09-02-2017, 12:44 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Burnt Hills, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redlite
Well witnessed a whole bunch of boats that looked like a flotillia makin repeated drifts in the canal from keene st up to half way gate from about 1 -3 this mornin and heard quite a few fish hittin decks. Unbelievable that that that many had the cajones to say f it and get away with it. Disturbing that that many were able to get away with it that long with no patrol. Dumbfounding
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I launched out of Sandwich just before 6am on Saturday morning and was shocked that at least 15 boats were within a stones throw of the Power plant, just outside the entrance of the Marina, drifting.... well within the end of the canal. They were there for over an hour with no sight of patrol. As I drove out I could hear some of the shore fisherman were not very happy and displayed their resentment, quite loudly I might add. |
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09-02-2017, 10:56 AM
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surfwalker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cape Cod
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QUOTE FROM A COMMERCIAL BASS FISHERMAN:
"80 per cent of us...cheat". He included himself.
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09-02-2017, 11:06 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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...and I'm sure this will bring "hell on wheels" But 80% of the Comms have regular jobs and the bass money is "play money". Gas, eels, booze, whatever. Not needed to sustain their families.
I speak from experience. When I was a comm there wasn't one guy in our club who was comm and didn't have a regular, well paying job.
Am I wrong about this?
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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09-02-2017, 11:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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You are probably 100% right piemma. But there is 100% nothing wrong with that. Lots of people have second jobs and hobbies that they make money from for extra cash and they use that for anything they like weather for bills or fun. We have hashed this out before on the site.
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09-02-2017, 11:38 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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A lot of the shore cheating stemmed from the reduction of the shore guys take to 2 fish. All that change did was cause even more cheating cause most held a boat 15 fish limit and it was very easy to catch 25 commercial fish each day of that week.
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09-02-2017, 01:24 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
...and I'm sure this will bring "hell on wheels" But 80% of the Comms have regular jobs and the bass money is "play money". Gas, eels, booze, whatever. Not needed to sustain their families.
I speak from experience. When I was a comm there wasn't one guy in our club who was comm and didn't have a regular, well paying job.
Am I wrong about this?
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It's time to call the "commercial" bass fishery what it is: a way for recs to defray the costs of their hobby and avoid paying sales tax on gear. The idea that 2 a day for a partial week, over 2 months, is the difference between staying afloat and going under, is laughable. Anyone who can afford the expense of owning and running a boat doesn't need to sell even 15 a day over an extremely short season. I'd estimate that only 10-15% of comm bass permit holders derive at least 50% of their income from the sale of fish. You want to have a commercial bass fishery? Fine, do what other states do. Require applicants for a bass endorsement to show their last 5 years of tax returns to pro that they earn at least 50% of their income from commercial fishing. The real commercials would enjoy a longer season, and maybe even be able to sell bass every day. |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-02-2017, 01:29 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by beamie
You are probably 100% right piemma. But there is 100% nothing wrong with that. Lots of people have second jobs and hobbies that they make money from for extra cash and they use that for anything they like weather for bills or fun. We have hashed this out before on the site.
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There's something majorly wrong with that: other second jobs aren't preventing some people from earning their living. Part time "commercials" are the reason for a short season and closed days, and really deprive true commercial fishermen from maximizing their earning potential. Making dog collars, and selling them on Etsy, isn't really hurting pet stores. The same is true of most other hobbies. Most aren't dealing with a very limited resource, and a extremely short sales window. |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-06-2017, 05:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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heres how it goes a lot now. Land 30lber. Run to tackle show. Weigh in for striper cup. Go back fishing. Catch 35 lber. Go to another tackle shop. As drive by dumpster tthrow 30 lber in dumpster. Go to different tackle shop weigh in 35lber.An on an on. Guys picking up dumpsters complaining of smell of several dead large stripers in many dumpsters around the Canal. See hats with several Striper Cup pins. MMMMM. Ad to this all the blue coolers placed along canal trail. No one owns them but they sure disappear quick when EPO comes around.
My point is catching big bass is fun. Catching and using them usefully is good ie feed family and friends. Catching for a pin then wasting them is a crime against the fish. yes the Canal was fun. Most have never seen anything like this season. Enjoy it but to some. STOP KILLI(NG THE DAMN FISH FOR A PIN OR A SELFY THEN WASTING THE FISH BY DUMPING THEM IN THE WOODS OR A DUMPSTER. Maybe is time for Striper Cup to go away. You know like the Scheafer tourney did.
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09-06-2017, 07:21 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Googan is as Googan does.
Can't fix stupid.
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09-07-2017, 03:57 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
heres how it goes a lot now. Land 30lber. Run to tackle show. Weigh in for striper cup. Go back fishing. Catch 35 lber. Go to another tackle shop. As drive by dumpster tthrow 30 lber in dumpster. Go to different tackle shop weigh in 35lber.An on an on. Guys picking up dumpsters complaining of smell of several dead large stripers in many dumpsters around the Canal. See hats with several Striper Cup pins. MMMMM. Ad to this all the blue coolers placed along canal trail. No one owns them but they sure disappear quick when EPO comes around.
My point is catching big bass is fun. Catching and using them usefully is good ie feed family and friends. Catching for a pin then wasting them is a crime against the fish. yes the Canal was fun. Most have never seen anything like this season. Enjoy it but to some. STOP KILLI(NG THE DAMN FISH FOR A PIN OR A SELFY THEN WASTING THE FISH BY DUMPING THEM IN THE WOODS OR A DUMPSTER. Maybe is time for Striper Cup to go away. You know like the Scheafer tourney did.
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.....and that's why I stopped doing the Striper Cup in 2013. I personally know of a 60+ that was killed for the pin and then thrown away. The Cup is outdated like the Schaefer Tourney was.
Sure they have a C&R. How many guys do C&R as compared to the guys that kill and discard breeders. IF you are going to kill it, for Christ sake EAT IT! |
No boat, back in the suds.
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09-07-2017, 07:47 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Part 2 started yesterday.
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09-07-2017, 11:02 AM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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striper cup can eat s*#t... with the state of the fishery it should have been a wrap years ago.
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09-07-2017, 11:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
striper cup can eat s*#t... with the state of the fishery it should have been a wrap years ago.
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Couldn't agree more.
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09-07-2017, 12:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: YAY Falmouth! no more CT :)
Posts: 144
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what about the MV derby? Ive never fished it but was up there 2 years ago during it and the amount of #^&#^&#^&#^&ing googans kicking fish up the beach so they could quickly try to catch a bigger one was ridiculous. they claim those fish don't go to waste but thats totally bull#^&#^&#^&#^& no fish is edible after baking in the sun for 4 hrs.
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09-07-2017, 01:03 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,620
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
striper cup can eat s*#t... with the state of the fishery it should have been a wrap years ago.
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They will put out the occasional editors comment about the importance of catch and release to product a dwindling biomass, yet promote killing for sport by hosting a yearly tourney. Hypocrisy
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09-07-2017, 01:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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I keep saying this and no one replies to challenge what I say so I will keep on saying it.. there are so many people making money off the blood of striped bass that we will never see conservation minded behavior until there is no more money to be made.
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09-07-2017, 01:28 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Originally Posted by Nebe
I keep saying this and no one replies to challenge what I say so I will keep on saying it.. there are so many people making money off the blood of striped bass that we will never see conservation minded behavior until there is no more money to be made.
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Can't argue with that
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-07-2017, 01:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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Bob Pond said that as long as the bounty is on the fish there will never be real conservation.
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09-07-2017, 01:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
Bob Pond said that as long as the bounty is on the fish there will never be real conservation.
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A man before his time. Oh wait.. no..... a man that lived through a moratorium.
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