Derby talk 2017 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

beamie · 10-01-2017, 09:55 PM

I need to ask this question, not looking to hijack this thread.

I have never fished this tourney, nor the Striper Cup (maybe once years ago)

But there was another thread earlier this month where several board members here were up in arms about the Striper Cup and the big fish people kill etc. Time to end it etc.

But where is that same outrage about the MV derby, why does this get a pass?

Just wondering.......

rphud · 10-02-2017, 06:38 AM

get's a pass, due to it's history or fund raising for kids to go to college or that all the fish are cleaned and filleted for the food program on island

This year I am only filling out slips for released fish. Just seemed like the thing to do. Might change my mind on a fly rod shore bone though.

albythereforyou · 10-03-2017, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rphud

get's a pass, due to it's history or fund raising for kids to go to college or that all the fish are cleaned and filleted for the food program on island

I've never fished the derby, I was on the island 2 years ago fishing during the derby. The amount of bass, blues and albies I saw KICKED TO shore and left to ROT in the sun for 2 -3 hrs was ridiculous. And by supposedly "veteran" anglers who should know better. No way in hell those fish are "fit for consumption". I have no problem with people keeping fish, just do it with some respect and and in a way that makes sure the fish is actual going to be edible. striped bass, bluefish, and albies are too valuable to kill and leave to rot in the sun, just to end up as lobster bait....

the derby needs to change with the times, just like every other tournament.

rphud · 10-03-2017, 07:48 AM

I am thinking people need to change more than the Derby. or people need to change first maybe.

nightfighter · 10-07-2017, 09:03 AM

New boat bass leader this morning. 51.04

Mike P · 10-07-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rphud

get's a pass, due to it's history or fund raising for kids to go to college or that all the fish are cleaned and filleted for the food program on island

This year I am only filling out slips for released fish. Just seemed like the thing to do. Might change my mind on a fly rod shore bone though.

The fillet station does reject fish. especially blues, that haven't been properly cared for. I've stood there and watched as they felt the fish, and threw them in the barrel with the racks.

rphud · 10-08-2017, 09:17 AM

three lead changes in one day and lots of bones

numbskull · 10-02-2017, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beamie

But there was another thread earlier this month where several board members here were up in arms about the Striper Cup and the big fish people kill etc. Time to end it etc.

But where is that same outrage about the MV derby, why does this get a pass?

Just wondering.......

I despise the derby...... but I would note that, in the last decade at least, very few large striped bass are weighed in. Way below what is killed for the Striper Cup or even a blitz weekend at the canal.

Mike P · 10-08-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

I despise the derby...... but I would note that, in the last decade at least, very few large striped bass are weighed in. Way below what is killed for the Striper Cup or even a blitz weekend at the canal.

As of yesterday, there were 242 bass weighed in over the course of the Derby. That's probably less mortality than a blitz day at the Canal. There were more albies weighed in than bass. 500 blues. I remember back in the 80s and early 90s when 2000 or more blues hit the scale. That's combined boat and shore.

I wish that more albies would be released, since they're not eligible for dailies. Actually, I'm not fond of daily prizes to begin with. I could never see the point of keeping a 15 pound bass just for a chance at a hat pin and a few bucks.

Swimmer · 10-17-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

As of yesterday, there were 242 bass weighed in over the course of the Derby. That's probably less mortality than a blitz day at the Canal. There were more albies weighed in than bass. 500 blues. I remember back in the 80s and early 90s when 2000 or more blues hit the scale. That's combined boat and shore.

I wish that more albies would be released, since they're not eligible for dailies. Actually, I'm not fond of daily prizes to begin with. I could never see the point of keeping a 15 pound bass just for a chance at a hat pin and a few bucks.

Mike only three albies can be weighed in by any one participant during the entire derby. When the committee went from no daily, to only weekly prizes for albies the catch totals went way down. Most fishermen/women keep track of weight needed to take over a position on the leader board, and do not any longer weigh in an albie just to get their weigh slip. I did not weigh in an albie even though I had several fish close to third place. However, high mortality can occur when a hook is swalliwed by the fish as deep as the gills. On the flip side guys are starting to find out bass, and blues eat albie strips bottom fishing.