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10-03-2017, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
name one....or two...
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Come on, you think there's no such thing as a common sense gun law?
I would start with the tools that make mass shootings a realistic possibility for a "typical" homicidal maniac, if there is such a thing.
Things like high capacity magazines, bump stocks...maybe make it legal to go to a very expensive gun club that the individual pays to join, where you can go in a room all by yourself, and shoot it, if that's how you get your jollies. Don't let people take them home. That's military functionality, there's no earthly reason to have it in your home.
When the technology is available (is it yet?), maybe require that all future guns have fingerprint id, so that no one else can shoot them. If that adds to the cost of owning a gun, so be it.
There's always a trade off between liberty and security. If Sandy Hook doesn't cause you to re-think where that line is drawn, at least a little bit, I'd say you are a pretty callous person.
Scott, if you had 50 caliber machine guns in your house, I'd probably still feel safe letting you babysit my kids. 95% of us are no threat. But the fact is, there are some kooks out there, and unfortunately, they don't walk around wearing signs that say "I am a homicidal maniac". They are out there, and we can't identify them. So we can make it harder for them to kill our kids (we can never make it impossible), or we can choose not to make it harder.
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10-03-2017, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Come on, you think there's no such thing as a common sense gun law?
I would start with the tools that make mass shootings a realistic possibility for a "typical" homicidal maniac, if there is such a thing.
Things like high capacity magazines, bump stocks...maybe make it legal to go to a very expensive gun club that the individual pays to join, where you can go in a room all by yourself, and shoot it, if that's how you get your jollies. Don't let people take them home. That's military functionality, there's no earthly reason to have it in your home.
When the technology is available (is it yet?), maybe require that all future guns have fingerprint id, so that no one else can shoot them. If that adds to the cost of owning a gun, so be it.
There's always a trade off between liberty and security. If Sandy Hook doesn't cause you to re-think where that line is drawn, at least a little bit, I'd say you are a pretty callous person.
Scott, if you had 50 caliber machine guns in your house, I'd probably still feel safe letting you babysit my kids. 95% of us are no threat. But the fact is, there are some kooks out there, and unfortunately, they don't walk around wearing signs that say "I am a homicidal maniac". They are out there, and we can't identify them. So we can make it harder for them to kill our kids (we can never make it impossible), or we can choose not to make it harder.
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would any of what you listed have stopped the shooting in Vegas?
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10-03-2017, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
would any of what you listed have stopped the shooting in Vegas?
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Nothing would have stopped it. But if was operating in semi mode (I am assuming it was more like full auto), there likely would be fewer dead/injured, no?
Just because we can't prevent them outright, why does that mean we do nothing? Zero dead would be great. But short of that, isn't fewer dead, better than more dead?
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10-03-2017, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Come on, you think there's no such thing as a common sense gun law?
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Is allowing silencers a common sense gun law?
Edit - think how many more deaths there may have been if people didn't know as soon where the gunman was.
Last edited by PaulS; 10-03-2017 at 12:14 PM..
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10-03-2017, 12:27 PM
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Is allowing silencers a common sense gun law?
Edit - think how many more deaths there may have been if people didn't know as soon where the gunman was.
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No, I don't think that legalizing silencers is common sense, I think it's insane. Are people advocating for that?
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10-03-2017, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
No, I don't think that legalizing silencers is common sense, I think it's insane. Are people advocating for that?
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I believe that was going to be introduced this week (and remove a $200 tranfer tax on slencer) - also loosen regs on armour piercing bullets, allow gun owners to transport registered firearms across state lines, carry guns in national parks.
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10-03-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
No, I don't think that legalizing silencers is common sense, I think it's insane. Are people advocating for that?
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They are already perfectly legal to own in 42 states. All that is required is a stamp from BATFE as they are on the NFA list. Send them $200 , get a stamp and get a SUPRESSOR. Thankfully the NFA also bans assault rifles.
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Does your incessant whining make you feel better? How about you just shut the hell up and suck it up? It's a fishing forum , so please just stop.
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