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10-11-2017, 08:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenmeanie
GOTO Youtube and look for cape cod canal fishing.
You will change your mind 2017 was a awesome year for big stripers.
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You think he should judge his perspective on the status of the fishery based on a 7 mile stretch of water on a select number of days? I think we went down a similar road 30 years ago.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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10-11-2017, 08:29 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,689
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Probably hit on the head with a 5oz jig, clearly not thinking right.
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10-11-2017, 06:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Warren Vt
Posts: 668
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Too bad BO ,but one less guy fishing isn't a bad thing.my fishing expierence isn't dictated by how many or how big,but did i enjoy myself,not many days that i can say that i fished and didn't have a good day.for myself the number of fish i catch hasn't changed much over the last 20 years,the size has .get use to small fish we have a few more years left before we can eat them
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10-11-2017, 08:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Originally Posted by l.i.fish.in.vt
get use to small fish we have a few more years left before we can eat them
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And after that? Six of last eight Chesapeake yoy were below average and five of them way below. Better hope some 2011 and 2015 fish get to be big breeders or it isn't gonna be good.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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10-17-2017, 01:48 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,876
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
And after that? Six of last eight Chesapeake yoy were below average and five of them way below. Better hope some 2011 and 2015 fish get to be big breeders or it isn't gonna be good.
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Interesting statistic from the Maryland DEM. This years YOY is the highest it has been in 64 years. It was 13.2
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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10-17-2017, 07:59 AM
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Interesting statistic from the Maryland DEM. This years YOY is the highest it has been in 64 years. It was 13.2
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No, I am guessing you read that wrong.64 year average is 11.7. 2017 came in at 13.2, which is slightly above the 64 year average. Good news for sure, but not the highest in 64 years. That was 1996 with around a 59.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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10-17-2017, 10:08 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
No, I am guessing you read that wrong.64 year average is 11.7. 2017 came in at 13.2, which is slightly above the 64 year average. Good news for sure, but not the highest in 64 years. That was 1996 with around a 59.
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The great spawning years of the 1990s raised the YOY average from 8.0 to 12.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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10-11-2017, 12:31 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
You think he should judge his perspective on the status of the fishery based on a 7 mile stretch of water on a select number of days? I think we went down a similar road 30 years ago.
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Closer to 40, now. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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10-11-2017, 02:21 PM
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surfwalker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
You think he should judge his perspective on the status of the fishery based on a 7 mile stretch of water on a select number of days? I think we went down a similar road 30 years ago.
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I will add my "miles stretch of water and a select number of days", to the consensus that this fishery is stressed and over harvested, at a minimum.
Furthermore, I bet a thousand other hard and experienced fishermen could add their water, and their "select number of days" to the consensus.
May I offer that the MV Derby is probably an unwilling contributer to the consensus also:
1. Largest beach bass for the Derby to 10/10/17: 29 lbs. Are you
kidding?
2. Largest daily beach bass for yesterday, 10/10/17: 13 lbs. Are you
kidding?
This fishery needs to be managed as a sport fishery...NOT as a commercial fishery. When is the MV Derby going to eliminate the "kill" Daily Prize for striped bass?
Last edited by SAUERKRAUT; 10-11-2017 at 07:37 PM..
Reason: spelling
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10-11-2017, 02:54 PM
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#10
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,876
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUERKRAUT
I will add my "miles stretch of water and a select number of days", to the consensus that this fishery is stressed and over harvested, at a minimum.
Furthermore, I bet a thousand other hard and experienced fishermen could add their water, and their "select number of days" to the consensus.
May I offer that the MV Derby is probably an unwilling contributer to the consensus also:
1. Largest beach bass for the Derby to 10/10/17: 29 lbs. Are you
kidding?
2. Largest daily beach bass for yesterday, 10/10/17: 13 lbs. Are
kidding?
This fishery needs to be managed as a sport fishery...NOT as a commercial fishery. When is the MV Derby going to eliminate the "kill" Daily Prize for striped bass?
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The answer is they won't. There's too much money involved with the fishermen visiting the Island during the Derby. C&R would reduce those numbers to a fraction of what they are.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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10-11-2017, 04:01 PM
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,124
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
The answer is they won't. There's too much money involved with the fishermen visiting the Island during the Derby. C&R would reduce those numbers to a fraction of what they are.
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Why? Are the fisherman in the tournament focused on meat or the competition and prizes?
I have never entered the tournament, but it seems to me the motivation is the competition itself. The prize money...etc. I guess it can be argued that it is harder to run a catch and release that is not partially based on the honor system, but even the kill tourneys suffer from cheating.
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10-13-2017, 09:20 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 52
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I am guessing we should base it off of a couple of you guys not catching fish?
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
You think he should judge his perspective on the status of the fishery based on a 7 mile stretch of water on a select number of days? I think we went down a similar road 30 years ago.
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10-14-2017, 09:07 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenmeanie
I am guessing we should base it off of a couple of you guys not catching fish?
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I think you are confused about who initiated that line of thinking.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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