Roy Moore / Al Franken

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Pretty sure he is talking about how you have to constantly bring up 20 year old incidents to try to make a point. Maybe people should bring up how Anita Hill was treated by the right.

The left has forced all the politicians on its "side" to resign. The right has not. The right elected a man to the most important position in the world who has bragged about assaulting women and walking in on naked people in their dressing room. 650K Alabamians just voted to elect a pedophile to be their next senator.

Never mind discussing all the things in the Trump budget that impacts woman in a negative way (aid to children, CHIP, etc) given they are carekeepers more than men.

They are not 20 year old incidents. Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died. So the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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[scottw]

WUT?!?!%$?

December 15, 2017 8:48 AM

Kansas Dem Andrea Ramsey, accused of sexual harassment, will drop out of US House race

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They are not 20 year old incidents.Huh, when did Clinton rape brodrick? Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. Don't forget how the Rep. treated Anita HillProb. bc the conserv. lied about her and him so many times that she didn't believe anything that came out. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died.That was trueSo the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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And the cons. just elected a pervert to the most important position in the world when they had many different option and 650K Alabamians voted for a perverted pedophile who was so bad malls banned him. You use 2 examples and I've shown you which states treat woman worse - most are run by conserv. and have voted cons. for years and years. They are responsible for the laws and policies which seems to hurt women more than the states which are run and voted left. Which sample is larger and thus more credible?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And the cons. ......

you seem desperate

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you seem desperate

He's just pointing out the obvious.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And the cons. just elected a pervert to the most important position in the world when they had many different option and 650K Alabamians voted for a perverted pedophile who was so bad malls banned him. You use 2 examples and I've shown you which states treat woman worse - most are run by conserv. and have voted cons. for years and years. They are responsible for the laws and policies which seems to hurt women more than the states which are run and voted left. Which sample is larger and thus more credible?

The assaults by Clinton and Kennedy took place decades ago, yes. But the willingness of democrat leaders to ignore thisebtransgressions contnued right up until election night of 2016, when the gop elected a reptile and the clintons simultaneously became of zero value. In that second, liberals claimed to care about perversion. If Hilary had won, we would not be having this conversation.

Let’s investigate the claims of trumps accusers. If he did any of it, then we should deal with it, but not until then. I fail to see how that is unfair.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The assaults by Clinton and Kennedy took place decades ago, yes. But the willingness of democrat leaders to ignore thisebtransgressions contnued right up until election night of 2016, when the gop elected a reptile and the clintons simultaneously became of zero value. In that second, liberals claimed to care about perversion. If Hilary had won, we would not be having this conversation.

Sexual harassment wasn't the same issue it was in the 1990's like it is today. Trump certainly has super charged the movement. As for Clinton, he paid a dear price for his very unethical relationship even back then.

But Bill wasn't running in 2016 and to hold his issues against Hillary wouldn't be fair to her at all.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Sexual harassment wasn't the same issue it was in the 1990's like it is today.

it was for the victims....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

it was for the victims....

I think you can dig a little deeper than that.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think you can dig a little deeper than that.

In other words, he’s got you and you know you can’t respond.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Sexual harassment wasn't the same issue it was in the 1990's like it is today. Trump certainly has super charged the movement. As for Clinton, he paid a dear price for his very unethical relationship even back then.

But Bill wasn't running in 2016 and to hold his issues against Hillary wouldn't be fair to her at all.

It wasn’t the same issue for liberals, last year, as it is today. The difference? The pervert in the Oval Office is a republican, so now all of a sudden, mistreating women is bad. If Hilary had won, your side would still be ignoring this. As with most things, liberal outrage on this issue is very selective, which means it’s fake.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It wasn’t the same issue for liberals, last year, as it is today. The difference? The pervert in the Oval Office is a republican, so now all of a sudden, mistreating women is bad. If Hilary had won, your side would still be ignoring this. As with most things, liberal outrage on this issue is very selective, which means it’s fake.
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it wasn't the same issue for anyone liberal or conservative... But Trump , Harvey Weinstein, bill o'reilly ,roger ailes, Rupert Murdoch. got caught with their pants down now its everyone's issue

and your stuck on Bill Clinton

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

it wasn't the same issue for anyone liberal or conservative... But Trump , Harvey Weinstein, bill o'reilly ,roger ailes, Rupert Murdoch. got caught with their pants down now its everyone's issue

and your stuck on Bill Clinton

curious choice of characters there given the field...Clinton actually had his pants down...when did Trump have his pants down?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

it wasn't the same issue for anyone liberal or conservative... But Trump , Harvey Weinstein, bill o'reilly ,roger ailes, Rupert Murdoch. got caught with their pants down now its everyone's issue

and your stuck on Bill Clinton

No, I am focusing on Hilary now. She lied to protect bill, and she slut shamed his victims on national tv. And the people who supported her and her husband, lecture me about voting for trump. Spare me the fake moral outrage.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

it wasn't the same issue for anyone liberal or conservative... But Trump , Harvey Weinstein, bill o'reilly ,roger ailes, Rupert Murdoch. got caught with their pants down now its everyone's issue

and your stuck on Bill Clinton

I am only surprised it was this quick to get to DJT. I figured they would wait a couple weeks.

For the record, never sexually assaulted or worse anyone. Don't condone it and don't vote (knowingly) for people proven to have. We as a nation need to be real careful about this because people will use this as leverage against legit and innocent people (difficult for me to use politicians as innocent in the same context.

The technology on the near horizon will allow bad guys to impersonate people both audibly and visually blurring reality from technology and the most honest people will be under pressure from this

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

But Bill wasn't running in 2016 and to hold his issues against Hillary wouldn't be fair to her at all.

Hilary lied to protect Bill ( blaming the cast right wing conspiracy for framing him), and Hilary used her platform as First Lady to slut shame his victims on national tv. True or false?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Hilary lied to protect Bill ( blaming the cast right wing conspiracy for framing him), and Hilary used her platform as First Lady to slut shame his victims on national tv. True or false?
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So Monica wasn't coached to not was herbr blue dress ?


http://www.famous-trials.com/clinton/889-lewinskydress

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So Monica wasn't coached to not was herbr blue dress ?


http://www.famous-trials.com/clinton/889-lewinskydress

Is this what aboutism? Oh, that's right, you've done a bunch of what aboutism on other posts, but it's only bad when other's do it.