Roy Moore / Al Franken

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by detbuch

So, is Roy Moore doing his bad sex stuff in the present? Is Trump doing his bad sex stuff in the present?

Originally Posted by wdmso

who said anything about their behavior being current this isn't the argument. but please keep trying to defend them


(peoples displeasure with such displays of bad behavior that occurred in past are affecting the present ..

definition of present : existing or occurring now.

Your the one who said:

"He [Jim in CT] has no point. He is obsessed with the Clintons ( a wife defending her husband and that sprites you) a
He refuses to live in the present . Or accept the reality of who's involved in this current round of bad behavior .. "

The "current round of bad behavior" is not current. The behavior is not current. There is no current round of Moore's or Trump's sexual behavior. It is old behavior which is being accused now. Hillary's and Bill's bad behavior did not stop them from being Party leaders. Neither did JFK's or Ted Kennedy's. And if, as you say here "peoples displeasure with such displays of bad behavior that occurred in past are affecting the present ..", how does Bill Clinton's proven sexual predation in the past not affect the present? Aren't some of the women he "assaulted" in the past still suffering from not getting "justice"? And so why do you say that pointing out Clinton's sexual behavior in the past is not affecting the present? That it's not, as you say, living "in the present"?

The Dems NOW saying that the Clinton's or the Kennedy's discretions were wrong and that they should have been convicted of something is too convenient (no political damage to the Dems in calling out the Clinton's and Kennedy's NOW instead of then when it counted), and, as Jim said, unbelievable.

And it is an obvious ploy to make it sound reasonable, even necessary, that we should do something, make some conviction or resignation happen, for Moore's or Trump's past supposed bad behavior.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your the one who said:


Aren't some of the women he "assaulted" in the past still suffering from not getting "justice"? And so why do you say that pointing out Clinton's sexual behavior in the past is not affecting the present? That it's not, as you say, living "in the present"?

all theses women you say were assaulted have the same legal rights as the women who claimed Trump and Moore assaulted them.. the statute of limitations protect all of the accused equally public opinion is a separate matter and if Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton were running for office today (present) those issues would be front and center



The Dems NOW saying that the Clinton's or the Kennedy's discretions were wrong and that they should have been convicted of something is too convenient ( for Moore's or Trump's past supposed bad behavior.

They were wrong the day they happen and still are . the idea that they are not and they were not punished .. is another conservative urban legend ! Ted Kennedy plead guilty. and the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice.

so please spare me there was no "justice" for their actions ?