lawmakers' failure to appreciate Me

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Who called Trump Hitler, this was written in 2010.

You posted it in 2018. I assumed you were trying to apply the article to current events. Does the Godwin effect no longer apply?

Where in the Constitution does it say anything about Christianity?
Or anything that would prohibit the practice of any religion?

How large do you want the Constitution to be? The Constitution limits the power of government. Any government that is unlimited, all-powerful, would be unconstitutional. Christianity is not a form of government. Even in its religious precepts, it admits no governmental authority over those who choose not to practice it. Islam, Nazism, Communism, Socialism, are forms of government which apply to all within their physical domain, and Islam, in theory, aspires to expand its power to include everyone on earth. They are forms of total government power over individuals. They are not compatible with our constitutional principles of individual freedom. Governmental power in our constitutional system rests on the consent of the people. And can only be wielded within the scope of the powers given to it in those enumerations prescribed by the people.

Conservatives want to look at history with a narrow view and pick the time they liked and try to get back there.
The war on drugs has failed
The war on abortion failed, it only lasted 100 years and did not eliminate abortion.

One of the reasons I usually put quotes around what is politically referred to as "Conservatism" is because it is a catch-all phrase, like "Liberal," which is contradictory and basically void of useful meaning. I prefer to use the term classical liberal to describe the point of view of those who wrote the Constitution. The divide, today, between so-called "Conservatives" and "Liberals" is a bit of a sham that hides a great deal of similarity between the two in their acceptance of our current mode of Progressive government. The difference is more in degree and type than in practice. Though, the "Conservatives" still have some links, or pretenses, to Classical Liberal Constitutionalism.

Classical Liberals (Costitutionalists), contrary to your notion of looking at history with a narrow view and picking a time to get back to, actually use the total, broad, scope of history, as the means to form and practice government. The Constitution was formed by those who inspected the totality of history known to them in order to pick the good things and protect against the bad things that existed in the historical record of governments. They formed a government for "now" not one which returned to some past. And they inserted in their Constitution the means to keep it "up to date."

The Founders, and most Classical Liberals, would not make a war on drugs or on abortion. Those types of "wars" are actually Progressive models of governing. The Early Progressives were the ones who tried to restrict or prohibit human behavior. The war on liquor (the Temperance movement) was a Progressive idea. Eugenics, purification of the race, was a Progressive idea. All the major founders of the Progressive movement were arch racists, including Presidents like Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Abortion today for the Progressive left has become a positive war to implement it in order to make society more efficient and controllable. It has become a pet project to enforce it and fund it for reasons of control. So the "Conservatives" (Progressive Right) want to use government power to restrict abortion for moral reasons (legislating morality), and the "Liberals" (Progressive Left) want to use government power to expand, enforce, and fund it as a tool of population control, and the Classical Liberals want government out of it all-together.

I'll admit that being a Republican at a liberal arts college can be dangerous and I have a little experience with that.
But i do believe that if you are young being liberal is not bad, but what happened at a local college with a conservative speaker was disappointing.

Being an actual liberal is good whether you are young or old or in between. Who we refer to as "Liberals" today are not liberal. They are the leftist Progressives. They subscribe to Progressive ideology which is authoritarian in nature, not liberal.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Being an actual liberal is good whether you are young or old or in between. Who we refer to as "Liberals" today are not liberal. They are the leftist Progressives. They subscribe to Progressive ideology which is authoritarian in nature, not liberal.

Where do Libertarians fit in this equation?
How is Islam any different from any other religion, or Catholicism for that matter which has it's own state and sole leader on earth. When I was a kid some people were concerned about electing a Papist as president. That was JFK. There are sects in many religions that I have no use for and that most of the practitioners of the more mainstream parts would disavow. People twist the Koran, Bible, Torah to fit their views.
Who fought the Crusades, brought Christianity to the rest of the World, willingly and unwillingly and lots of other things in the name of their God. I think it is a case of let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Where do Libertarians fit in this equation?
How is Islam any different from any other religion, or Catholicism for that matter which has it's own state and sole leader on earth. When I was a kid some people were concerned about electing a Papist as president. That was JFK. There are sects in many religions that I have no use for and that most of the practitioners of the more mainstream parts would disavow. People twist the Koran, Bible, Torah to fit their views.
Who fought the Crusades, brought Christianity to the rest of the World, willingly and unwillingly and lots of other things in the name of their God. I think it is a case of let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

"How is Islam any different from any other religion, or Catholicism"

Well. let's see. For starters, there aren't large numbers of Catholics who want to slaughter everyone who isn't Catholic, so there's that.

How many Muslim hospitals, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, and adoption agencies are you aware of?

Catholicism also doesn't brutalize women, doesn't force them to dress like ninjas and mutilate their genitalia.