No mental health issue in america.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Really Jim?

God damn right, really. Read the report written by the late great liberal senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who (when he was Secretary of Labor, I think??) predicted decades ago that liberal welfare would mean the end of the black nuclear family, which would be a catastrophe for poor blacks.

When he wrote that report, people like you said "really, Mr Moynihan?"

He was exactly, 100 percent correct. To this day, liberals refuse to concede that he was right. Despite everything happening right under your noses, you deny it. That's productive.

That's liberalism. You implement a liberal idea. if it works, you say "see, liberalism works". When it fails, you stick your fingers in your ears and go "la la la la".

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

God damn right, really. Read the report written by the late great liberal senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who (when he was Secretary of Labor, I think??) predicted decades ago that liberal welfare would mean the end of the black nuclear family, which would be a catastrophe for poor blacks.

When he wrote that report, people like you said "really, Mr Moynihan?"

Actually he was advocating for stronger welfare to support the lack of employment for black men. You do realize he was a liberal in a liberal administration writing to support a liberal policy don't you?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually he was advocating for stronger welfare to support the lack of employment for black men. You do realize he was a liberal in a liberal administration writing to support a liberal policy don't you?
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You literally just make stuff up? Complete fabrication?

He was calling for programs that did what he thought was vital - restore the black nuclear family. He predicted, correctly, that welfare as we know it, would cause continued deterioration of the black nuclear family, and that would be a catastrophe.

He was right. 100% right. You disagree?

Yes he was a liberal, a heroic liberal who, unlike you, was able to speak the truth, even when said truth didn't necessarily support liberalism.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He was calling for programs that did what he thought was vital - restore the black nuclear family. He predicted, correctly, that welfare as we know it, would cause continued deterioration of the black nuclear family, and that would be a catastrophe.

Jim, family structure was seen as critical, but his thesis said that Civil Rights legislation alone wouldn't be enough to lift African Americans from poverty and that welfare was needed especially to support unemployed black men. Not that welfare would erode the family structure.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Not that welfare would erode the family structure.

Moynihan concluded, "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

Moynihan concluded, "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

Stop taking things out of context like that.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Moynihan concluded, "The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States."

Just to let you know, you quoted a hardcore conservative writing an opinion piece in "capitalism magazine."

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Just to let you know, you quoted a hardcore conservative writing an opinion piece in "capitalism magazine."

The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/d...oynihan_182349


https://www.amazon.com/steady-expans.../dp/B01LWYKN5W

https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/M...o%20Family.pdf

heh..heh...heh.....didn't know he was a an opinion writing hardcore conservative

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Just to let you know, you quoted a hardcore conservative writing an opinion piece in "capitalism magazine."

It's an exact Moynihan quote. Not what someone else wrote. Can't wait to see you explain that away...