Memo is out

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

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Both sides saying the exact opposite as usual. Most people, myself included, will believe their side is probably right, and the other side is lying.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Both sides saying the exact opposite as usual.

Well, no that's not really the case. The Schiff memo disproves the Nunes memo mostly by not saying the information is wrong, but by providing the intentionally omitted details that made is so misleading.

The only item in the Nunes memo that the Dems say was fabricated was the point about how the FISA warrant wouldn't have been issued without the Dossier. People in that meeting said that was taken completely out of context.

You're just going to have to face up to the fact that once again you were duped, all in the name of protecting mother Russia.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, no that's not really the case. The Schiff memo disproves the Nunes memo mostly by not saying the information is wrong, but by providing the intentionally omitted details that made is so misleading.

The only item in the Nunes memo that the Dems say was fabricated was the point about how the FISA warrant wouldn't have been issued without the Dossier. People in that meeting said that was taken completely out of context.

You're just going to have to face up to the fact that once again you were duped, all in the name of protecting mother Russia.

"but by providing the intentionally omitted details that made is so misleading"

Did the FISA application include some reliance on the Steele dossier, which was paid for by the Clinton campaign?

"how the FISA warrant wouldn't have been issued without the Dossier"

I presume only the judge knows if that's true.

"You're just going to have to face up to the fact that once again you were duped, all in the name of protecting mother Russia"

I know, I know. Hilary is just the walking embodiment of virtue, and those mean Republicans just won't let her try to serve the world, seeking no gain for herself. I say we strip Mother Theresa of her sainthood, and give it to Hilary.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Did the FISA application include some reliance on the Steele dossier, which was paid for by the Clinton campaign?

Yes, and four federal republican appointed judges and the FBI had no problem with that.

Any other questions?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, and four federal republican appointed judges and the FBI had no problem with that.

Any other questions?

How about this which answers most of Jim' questions? The Schiff Memo Harms Democrats More Than It Helps Them:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...an-helps-them/

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

How about this which answers most of Jim' questions? The Schiff Memo Harms Democrats More Than It Helps Them:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...an-helps-them/

There's a lot at issue with this piece. 1) It ignores that the Trump campaign was under investigation 7 weeks before the dossier came out 2) The investigation was launched not just because Papadopoulos was in contact with Russians but rather because he was drunk bragging about access to Clinton's emails and 3) FISA protocol is to not name Americans who are not the target of the warrant.

And that's just off the top of my head.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

There's a lot at issue with this piece. 1) It ignores that the Trump campaign was under investigation 7 weeks before the dossier came out 2) The investigation was launched not just because Papadopoulos was in contact with Russians but rather because he was drunk bragging about access to Clinton's emails and 3) FISA protocol is to not name Americans who are not the target of the warrant.

And that's just off the top of my head.

It eviscerates the Democrat's memo.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, and four federal republican appointed judges and the FBI had no problem with that.

Any other questions?

Sure, how's this for starters If 'the FBI' that had no problem with it is riddled with leaders who wanted Hilary to win, who cares that they are OK with it? That they are OK with it, could be more evidence of wrongdoing, not less.

Here's another...how do you know the judges would have been OK with it, if they knew that the Steele dossier was provided by an adversarial political campaign?

Any other pathetic excuses that a 10 year-old can tear to shreds?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Sure, how's this for starters If 'the FBI' that had no problem with it is riddled with leaders who wanted Hilary to win, who cares that they are OK with it? That they are OK with it, could be more evidence of wrongdoing, not less.

Jim, the request has to be approved by Federal Judges before the FBI can sign off on it.

Here's another...how do you know the judges would have been OK with it, if they knew that the Steele dossier was provided by an adversarial political campaign?

The Dossier wasn't provided by an adversarial campaign, it was by a law firm and the FISA request clearly stated it was political opposition research.

Any other pathetic excuses that a 10 year-old can tear to shreds?

Mind bending.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Sure,

Any other pathetic excuses that a 10 year-old can tear to shreds?

Yet you couldn't? SAD!
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