In pictures: US gun-blessing ceremony

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You can support the 2nd amandment and want strict gun control at the same time. It’s an amazing concept called back ground checks and regulation. I’m not sure why people can grasp this.
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Yes, I understand better backgrounds checks are necessary but there is also "Shall not be infringed" . So you can't take away the right to bear, and for those that do you had better have due process figured out (regardless of what DT said). Heller stated the public has the right to arms and to used in lawful purpose (ie self defense / home defense).

So lets have a discussion on how to protect 1A, 2A and 4A, 8A, etc and keep people safe. I’m not sure why people can grasp this.



The Bill of Rights is the basis upon which this country is governed and if that is altered there will be unimaginable conflict.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

the extreme fringe are the ones with all the money that are making the most noise..

Simply not true, prove it.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Simply not true, prove it.

You just did ..

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Yes, I understand better backgrounds checks are necessary but there is also "Shall not be infringed".

This is part of the problem, what exactly shall not be infringed? "Arms" is a pretty vague term and the SCOTUS has clearly stated it's not unlimited.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by spence

This is part of the problem, what exactly shall not be infringed? "Arms" is a pretty vague term and the SCOTUS has clearly stated it's not unlimited.

Right, they blew it with the wording. There was no way for them to know that state militias would become obsolete. There was no way for them to know the 14th amendment would come along and make it apply to state governments, as well as feds. It was 200 years until the Heller decision came along and flipped things on their head.

Context of the writing of the 2nd amendment:
4 million people in US
Private arms were black powder flintlock muskets (a militia would have canons)
At time of writing, only applied to federal laws, states could have completely banned private ownership of arms.