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03-13-2018, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
the Pres. Propbably as a result of Rex's Anti-Russian tweet - this is what concerns me most about Trump - if there is real influence on DJT by Pooti
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At this point I don't see how else you explain away his inability to be critical of Russia. |
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03-13-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
At this point I don't see how else you explain away his inability to be critical of Russia.
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Would have been real nice if the previous admin had done anything about it - like calling the 80s to redistribute their foreign policy.
So we have TWO back to back administrations that are completely mismanaging the greatest (arguably) Geopolitical / foreign policy threat.
(my list: Russia & China,Russia, China, 20TB and growing debt, Norks, Syria, failure of liberal western democracies) |
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03-13-2018, 11:04 AM
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So we have TWO back to back administrations that are completely mismanaging the greatest (arguably) Geopolitical / foreign policy threat.
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Well, Obama may have underestimated what it would take to influence Russia but Trump looks like an active co-conspirator. Two very different things. |
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03-13-2018, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, Obama may have underestimated what it would take to influence Russia but Trump looks like an active co-conspirator. Two very different things.
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What does it "look like" they are conspiring to do? |
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03-13-2018, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
What does it "look like" they are conspiring to do?
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I think Trump kisses Putin's golden ring a bit more than Putin does, but there is definitely a love fest there; not sure if there is a deep state conspiracy there. Even as of a week or so ago, DJT still was passing around the belief that the hacking could have been many others other than Russia. |
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03-13-2018, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I think Trump kisses Putin's golden ring a bit more than Putin does, but there is definitely a love fest there; not sure if there is a deep state conspiracy there. Even as of a week or so ago, DJT still was passing around the belief that the hacking could have been many others other than Russia.
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If there is a love affair between them, it certainly hasn't gone farther than some hints, and is, so far as we know, unrequited, and doesn't have any indications of leading to a marriage. Even been a few spats. Maybe a passing fancy? Maybe a trick?
The Donald does have a tendency to fire people who he has praised. |
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03-13-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well, Obama may have underestimated what it would take to influence Russia but Trump looks like an active co-conspirator. Two very different things.
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Obama habitually effed up and underestimate foreign powers and the Great Game. Jury is still out if DJT can surpass BO on FP complete and utter stupidity as the amount is great, but the race is on. |
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03-13-2018, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
What does it "look like" they are conspiring to do?
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At a minimum conspiring to cover up or minimize the fallout from Russia's efforts to disrupt the election in favor for Trump. They might have different motivations but the behavior is quite telling. |
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03-13-2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
At a minimum conspiring to cover up or minimize the fallout from Russia's efforts to disrupt the election in favor for Trump.
Trump and Putin praising each other is a strange way to cover up a cozy conspiracy between them. But let's assume that it is a masterfully devious trick, a grand deflection, to hide what is,"At a minimum", a conspiracy to cover up a conspiracy, what would be the "maximum" conspiracy between Trump and Putin?
They might have different motivations but the behavior is quite telling.
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Please do tell us what the behavior tells. |
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03-13-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Please do tell us what the behavior tells.
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What would Putin want?
1. Destroy or invalidate US intelligence assets
2. Destroy or weaken NATO
3. Destroy or weaken Economic alliances of his opposition
4. Destabilize democracies, encourage authoritarian regimes
5. Remove the USA as a world leader for democracy
6. Remove or lessen sanctions placed on him or his followers
What does Trump's behavior tell you? |
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