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03-17-2018, 08:48 AM
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They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.
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03-17-2018, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.
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"Power corrupts;" That's why we had better not give up our constitutional protections against unlimited government--because "absolute power corrupts absolutely." |
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03-17-2018, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.
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I think that's a pretty negative view of a lot of people trying to do good things. Clinton may be a bad candidate and a little aloof but I think she has good intentions. Bernie isn't corrupt, just a little wacky.
Trump? Perhaps the most corrupt POTUS we've ever had.
I don't buy the everybody does it defense either...at least the GOP is a lot better at it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/u...imes&smtyp=cur |
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03-17-2018, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton may be a bad candidate and a little aloof but I think she has good intentions.
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apparently you've fallen down some stairs recently too... |
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03-18-2018, 10:17 PM
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03-19-2018, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
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26 min? What did he say??? |
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03-19-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
26 min? What did he say???
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I wondered what point your NY Times/Guardian article was trying to make.
Lionel's style can be torturous, but hundreds of thousands of people don't have trouble understanding what he says. The last couple of minutes in the video wraps it up pretty clearly. The Cambridge Analytica stuff is nothing. |
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03-19-2018, 09:54 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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I agree with one of his closing statements, that data and information and the social media are the new weapons and guess what; Putin figured that one out years ago. That is why to me it's a bits disappointing that we seem to be playing catch-up, while Putin is relentless in seeing how deeply he can get into our vulnerable utilities, or how much he can mess with us in any way to cause unrest.
The Russian investigation has merit based on the fact that a percentage of the voting public are voting based on some level of influence Russian bots might have had on their perception of facts, truth and real positions of the candidates. Whether there was collusion or not, we are involved in a dangerous cyber war across the globe and we better get smart and harden our defenses.
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03-19-2018, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
The Cambridge Analytica stuff is nothing.
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I see, so the Trump campaign using stolen data in a social media scheme (via a company with ties to Russia and Ukraine) to influence the election is "nothing." |
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03-19-2018, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I see, so the Trump campaign using stolen data in a social media scheme (via a company with ties to Russia and Ukraine) to influence the election is "nothing."
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Was the information "stolen"? Did Facebook adequately protect the info? Did the Trump campaign steal anything? The rising hubbub seems to be aimed at Facebook for careless handling of info. Was anything that was done illegal? Is this something actually new?
Lionel is an experienced trial lawyer. He said it was not illegal. Check with him. |
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