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03-21-2018, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
Don't forget when Obama congratulated the Islamic brotherhood candidate when winning Egypts' Presidential election in 2012, in 2013 the winner in Iran and 2014 in Turkey.
Same difference
Maybe people did not like that and kept quiet, then spoke with their votes. But I am sure there was a lot more to it as well all know better.  |
Morsi won the first democratic election ever in Egypt. He promoted democracy. Obama congratulated him on what was widely consider a fair and legitimate democratic election.The party does have Muslim in the name which scares people, but they are more of a problem to Sunnis than they are for the US. I know he got tossed, but before that Tillerson made it clear that the brotherhood did not deserve to be lumped in with terrorist organizations.
Rouhani is a reformist. The Ayatollah s probably like him less than the us.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-22-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
Morsi won the first democratic election ever in Egypt. He promoted democracy. Obama congratulated him on what was widely consider a fair and legitimate democratic election.The party does have Muslim in the name which scares people, but they are more of a problem to Sunnis than they are for the US. I know he got tossed, but before that Tillerson made it clear that the brotherhood did not deserve to be lumped in with terrorist organizations.
Rouhani is a reformist. The Ayatollah s probably like him less than the us.
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Muslim Brotherhood is not more of a problem for Sunnis - well other than they tend to be Sunni and make Sunnis do dumb things. They are pretty much a threat to most people as well as a brake on progress in the region.
Sure they are not all bad guys like they are good people and bad people in Hamas, not everyone in Sinn Fein was an IRA terrorist Bomber, and Hamas has a few Girl Scouts too.
Where do you get your info??
Iran, Ayotollah, like US, really? |
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03-22-2018, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Where do you get your info??
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"Left wing extremism has been pretty unusual post Vietnam era."ZIMMY 
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03-22-2018, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
"Left wing extremism has been pretty unusual post Vietnam era."ZIMMY |
Still has a ways to go to catch up with the right
https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/53325...iolence-rising
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03-22-2018, 07:39 AM
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Again, neither is acceptable. Full Stop. |
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03-22-2018, 08:03 AM
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I looked at the data that the article is using and zim cites and apparently left wing extremism and violence doesn't even exist.....sooo...yeah...that works...
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03-22-2018, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I looked at the data that the article is using and zim cites and apparently left wing extremism and violence doesn't even exist.....sooo...yeah...that works...
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Then you didn't read it, or are making the assumption that moderate extremists are responsible for 26%
"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says. |
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03-22-2018, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
"Left wing extremism has been pretty unusual post Vietnam era."ZIMMY |
You must be 5'6" tall max, right? It comes across in your posts.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-22-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
You must be 5'6" tall max, right? It comes across in your posts.
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5'11" 180lb.... what's your point?  is this more Libonics? |
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03-22-2018, 09:50 AM
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5'11" 180lb.... what's your point? is this more Libonics? |
You just act like someone with a complex.  |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-22-2018, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
You just act like someone with a complex. |
it's possible  |
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03-22-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Muslim Brotherhood is not more of a problem for Sunnis - well other than they tend to be Sunni and make Sunnis do dumb things. They are pretty much a threat to most people as well as a brake on progress in the region.
Sure they are not all bad guys like they are good people and bad people in Hamas, not everyone in Sinn Fein was an IRA terrorist Bomber, and Hamas has a few Girl Scouts too.
Where do you get your info??
Iran, Ayotollah, like US, really?
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Typing on a phone at 11 pm didn't help. MB mostly a problem for the Shiites. At the time of morsi's election, it was a move toward Western democracy, ya know, the thing bush said would sweep the middle East.
Rohani is a reformist. Ayatollahs tend to be way more conservative and fundamentalist. The US would prefer Iran move the direction rohani would take Iran than the ayatollahs.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-22-2018, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
Ayatollahs tend to be way more conservative and fundamentalist.
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Ya Think  |
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03-22-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Ya Think |
you must be 5'2" tall max... |
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03-22-2018, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you must be 5'2" tall max...
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5'11" 225
But I'm Irish, so I guess I need to buy an expensive car or a big truck.
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03-22-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
5'11" 225
But I'm Irish, so I guess I need to buy an expensive car or a big truck.
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now THAT sounds like a complex...  |
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03-22-2018, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
5'11" 225
But I'm Irish, so I guess I need to buy an expensive car or a big truck.
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You could just hang a pair of those rubber neuticles from your Malibu.  |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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03-22-2018, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Ya Think |
More conservative and fundamentalist than Rohani, who is the president  |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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