Gun-Trained Teacher Accidentally Shoots Gun In Calif. High School Classroom

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So what law would you pass, which doesn't already exist, to prevent these things...and how would you enforce it?

clearly...you could start by banning uneducated white trash from owning any kind of firearm...that would go a long in solving many of the country's problems....enforce it with the death penalty...which would also serve as a deterrent...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

clearly...you could start by banning uneducated white trash from owning any kind of firearm...that would go a long in solving many of the country's problems....enforce it with the death penalty...which would also serve as a deterrent...

I'm sure there are still a lot of southerners around who administered those literacy tests to Blacks. Maybe they can help.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm sure there are still a lot of southerners around who administered those literacy tests to Blacks. Maybe they can help.

Since you brought up the south, blacks, in a discussion about guns and the NRA...

How many high school students who walked out last week, how many of the kids on CNN every night calling for gun control, and how many of their history teachers...are aware of the fact that the NRA helped blacks who lived in the segregated south, by arming them after the racists took their guns? I bet those history teachers know when Stalin and Mao were born, but I bet they don't know that little historical tidbit.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Since you brought up the south, blacks, in a discussion about guns and the NRA...

How many high school students who walked out last week, how many of the kids on CNN every night calling for gun control, and how many of their history teachers...are aware of the fact that the NRA helped blacks who lived in the segregated south, by arming them after the racists took their guns? I bet those history teachers know when Stalin and Mao were born, but I bet they don't know that little historical tidbit.

Where you get that info? It seems like you might be promoting teaching of unsubstantiated or false claims. The things I find are more like:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...n-fact-checks/
The National Rifle Association was "founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan."

Our rating: Pants on Fire.

This claim was made in 2013 by Harry Alford, president and chief executive officer of the D.C.-based National Black Chamber of Commerce and was shared by the Milwaukee County Republican Party.

We found the NRA itself said it was formed by Union Civil War veterans to improve soldiers’ marksmanship. And we found no evidence that religious leaders founded the NRA to protect freed slaves from the KKK."

Even separate from the issue of the founding of the NRA, I can't find any info that says they helped slaves. Could be true, I just cant find anything on it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Where you get that info? It seems like you might be promoting teaching of unsubstantiated or false claims. The things I find are more like:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...n-fact-checks/
The National Rifle Association was "founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan."

Our rating: Pants on Fire.

This claim was made in 2013 by Harry Alford, president and chief executive officer of the D.C.-based National Black Chamber of Commerce and was shared by the Milwaukee County Republican Party.

We found the NRA itself said it was formed by Union Civil War veterans to improve soldiers’ marksmanship. And we found no evidence that religious leaders founded the NRA to protect freed slaves from the KKK."

Even separate from the issue of the founding of the NRA, I can't find any info that says they helped slaves. Could be true, I just cant find anything on it.

I don’t think I sad anything about how it why it was founded. I said they helped blacks defend themselves. I didn’t know that was in dispute, I’ve seen a lot of blacks claim they got guns from the NRA. In any event, as Paul said, their mission statement is quite different today.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I don’t think I sad anything about how it why it was founded. I said they helped blacks defend themselves. I didn’t know that was in dispute, I’ve seen a lot of blacks claim they got guns from the NRA. In any event, as Paul said, their mission statement is quite different today.
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Right. I pointed out that the only thing I could find was about a bogus claim about the founding of the nra., but I found nothing that even marginally supports your statement that the NRA helped blacks who had their guns taken by racists. You said history teachers know mao and Stalin, but not that tidbit. Where did you get that info? You put it out as fact. You specifically said "aware of the fact..." It is likely a bogus claim related to the false statement about the founding I referenced. Even if true it is irrelevant to the students who walked out 125 years later. Why do you think it is a fact?
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Since you brought up the south, blacks, in a discussion about guns and the NRA...

How many high school students who walked out last week, how many of the kids on CNN every night calling for gun control, and how many of their history teachers...are aware of the fact that the NRA helped blacks who lived in the segregated south, by arming them after the racists took their guns? I bet those history teachers know when Stalin and Mao were born, but I bet they don't know that little historical tidbit.

Some NRA people perhaps did help (Spence level remote association ) but not because they were NRA but because the Republicans, some affiliated with the nascent and generally unrelated NRA of the day, were trying to reduce the pressure on black's in the south after the Civil War. Shortly after the Civil War, blacks were able to vote and some went to Congress as representatives for their areas. The 1870s and post CW reconstruction were a severe period of upheaval.

Originally Posted by PaulS

Good point (if true). Too bad the NRA has gone off the deep end and has gotten so extreme.

How has the NRA gone off the deep end and gotten extreme? Do you feel that the ALCU should be disbanded due to their fervent support of first amendment rights?

Did the NRA cause these school shootings? Did NRA Members do the mass shooting?

[scottw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm sure there are still a lot of southerners around who administered those literacy tests to Blacks. Maybe they can help.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Since you brought up the south, blacks, in a discussion about guns and the NRA...

it's amusing that the two of you end up here so often...