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05-07-2018, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Apple alone is adding 20,000 jobs., and paying 38 billion in federal tax to bring back 250 billion in overseas cash.
Comcast is investing 50 billion in infastructure improvements.
None of that matters to these people, they hate Trump so much, they are literally, and I mean literally, blinded to everything else.
Unemployment is down, and wages are up. Those are good things. But you can't get a Trump hater to concede that.
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and none of it has happened yet.. Apple did not specify the types of jobs that will be part of it its hiring push, such as if the majority will be sales staff at its various Apple stores or if they will be software engineers or technical workers. it matters
Comcast "Roberts also announced that the Company expects to spend well in excess of $50 billion over the next five years investing in infrastructure to radically improve and extend our broadband plant and capacity, and our television, film and theme park offerings," the company added.
But those that take a closer look at Comcast's finances will find that's something that would have occurred anyway.
they planned to do anyway, then claim it was all only possible thanks to Trump and you fall for it PS wages are not up I forgot they are by 4 cents
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05-07-2018, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
and none of it has happened yet.. Apple did not specify the types of jobs that will be part of it its hiring push, such as if the majority will be sales staff at its various Apple stores or if they will be software engineers or technical workers. it matters
Comcast "Roberts also announced that the Company expects to spend well in excess of $50 billion over the next five years investing in infrastructure to radically improve and extend our broadband plant and capacity, and our television, film and theme park offerings," the company added.
But those that take a closer look at Comcast's finances will find that's something that would have occurred anyway.
they planned to do anyway, then claim it was all only possible thanks to Trump and you fall for it PS wages are not up I forgot they are by 4 cents
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"and none of it has happened yet"
Tax rates are down, bonuses have been paid, minimum wages have been raised at a lot of places. If you are referring to Apple, no you are correct, they haven't hired 20,000 new people yet. Perhaps that kind of growth takes time to think through and to plan diligently.
"Apple did not specify the types of jobs that will be part of it its hiring push, such as if the majority will be sales staff at its various Apple stores or if they will be software engineers or technical workers. it matters "
Of course it matters. But it's still 20,000 new jobs that didn't exist before. ANYTHING to deflect from the fact that the tax overhaul already did more than Obama's stimulus.
"they (Comcast) planned to do anyway, then claim it was all only possible thanks to Trump "
So the company that owns NBC and MSNBC, the company that signs Rachael Maddow's paychecks, is lying to make Trump look good. That's what you expect me to believe? That just makes ALL KINDS of sense. Please, tell us more about the insider financial information of Comcast. Obviously you are so well-informed...
"PS wages are not up "
Net wages, which are what matter, are up.
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05-07-2018, 09:58 AM
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Of course it matters. But it's still 20,000 new jobs that didn't exist before. ANYTHING to deflect from the fact that the tax overhaul already did more than Obama's stimulus.
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While Apple said that they were adding $100 M to stock buybacks bc of the tax law they never said that the 20K new jobs where as a result of the law.
ANYTHING to promote Trump regardless of facts.
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05-07-2018, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
While Apple said that they were adding $100 M to stock buybacks bc of the tax law they never said that the 20K new jobs where as a result of the law.
ANYTHING to promote Trump regardless of facts.
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I can't refute that, Apple didn't specifically say that the 20,000 new jobs were only because of the tax overhaul. But the jobs, I believe, were included in the same announcement as bringing back 250B in cash, and paying a tax of 38B. We do know, those moves are a result of the tax overhaul.
Apple also gave $2,500 bonuses to most of it's 85,000 employees. But let's not talk about that.
I am sorry that the economy is doing so well, Paul. It must eat at you and Spence.
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05-07-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I am sorry that the economy is doing so well, Paul. It must eat at you and Spence.
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Why would you make that up? You're smart enough to know that is not true.
If the attached chart didn't have dates on it would you be able to tell where Pres. Trump was elected?
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05-07-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Why would you make that up? You're smart enough to know that is not true.
If the attached chart didn't have dates on it would you be able to tell where Pres. Trump was elected?
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"Why would you make that up? You're smart enough to know that is not true."
I believe it to be true. When you constantly deflect and water down every bid of economic good news because you hate the guy at the helm, it's a reasonable conclusion.
"If the attached chart didn't have dates on it would you be able to tell where Pres. Trump was elected"
So you're saying that unemployment trends that existed under Obama, would be expected to stay the same under a new POTUS? How about when unemployment hit zero, would that downward trend be expected to continue? Or are there a ton of moving pieces that effect such thing?
The economy is better than when Trump took office, and most of us have a bit more money in our pockets, and our retirement accounts are up since he got sworn in, and the companies we work for and have shares in, are more profitable and valuable. .
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05-07-2018, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Why would you make that up? You're smart enough to know that is not true."
I believe it to be true. When you constantly deflect and water down every bid of economic good news because you hate the guy at the helm, it's a reasonable conclusion. I hate the guy for what he says and how he acts. That has been prob. 90% of my criticism in this forum about him.
"If the attached chart didn't have dates on it would you be able to tell where Pres. Trump was elected"
So you're saying that unemployment trends that existed under Obama, would be expected to stay the same under a new POTUS? What I'm sayings is that w/o the dates you can't tell where Pres. Trump was elected so it appears that the overall trend is basically the same. Pres. Trump or Pres Obama - the empl. rate trend hasn't changed much How about when unemployment hit zero, would that downward trend be expected to continue? Or are there a ton of moving pieces that effect such thing?
The economy is better than when Trump took office, and most of us have a bit more money in our pockets, and our retirement accounts are up since he got sworn in, and the companies we work for and have shares in, are more profitable and valuable. .
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Agreed, the economy has gotten better under Trump but we'll never know where it would be under Obama.
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05-09-2018, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I can't refute that, Apple didn't specifically say that the 20,000 new jobs were only because of the tax overhaul. But the jobs, I believe, were included in the same announcement as bringing back 250B in cash, and paying a tax of 38B. We do know, those moves are a result of the tax overhaul.
Apple also gave $2,500 bonuses to most of it's 85,000 employees. But let's not talk about that.
I am sorry that the economy is doing so well, Paul. It must eat at you and Spence.
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Apple is giving its employees $2,500 bonuses in restricted stock units yet again another example from what i can find hasn't happened ..
ITS been said before.. suddenly now all the governments data is spot on .. no one here isn't saying the economy is is not doing well ,, we just disagree that the avg American is some how in a much better place just because Orange Julius is in office .. which is factually inaccurate
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05-09-2018, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Apple is giving its employees $2,500 bonuses in restricted stock units yet again another example from what i can find hasn't happened ..
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wait...so...Apple is giving bonuses or isn't giving bonuses?
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05-09-2018, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
we just disagree that the avg American is some how in a much better place just because Orange Julius is in office .. which is factually inaccurate
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based on what?....and define "avg American"
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