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05-29-2018, 03:09 PM
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Or Bush's email server run by the RNC that lost 22 million emails? oh yeah, not relevant to Trump's tweets, but hey whatever makes us feel better 
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You mean the ones that were deleted (as policy of where they were on RNC servers) but mostly recovered from backup? Then GUV officials could go through everything raw and determine if things were illegal or not.
If you have backups going long enough you can restore entire Exchange Databases and this is what they did.
http://content.time.com/time/nation/...610414,00.html
Much different than having your lawyers delete 30k YOGA emails or "what's for dinner" exchanges with your husband (you know the guy that stated he never sent an email in his entire life). And THEN delete the backups. Or how Obama had a "phantom" email address alias he would use to communicate with HRC on her server? That email server?
That server? Actually it was several servers over time, running in multiple locations with real crappy security.
Frankly, her email server (unpatched BTW) is as susceptible if not more than Trump's personal cell - BOTH are gross mishandling of digital information.
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05-29-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
You mean the ones that were deleted (as policy of where they were on RNC servers) but mostly recovered from backup? Then GUV officials could go through everything raw and determine if things were illegal or not.
If you have backups going long enough you can restore entire Exchange Databases and this is what they did.
http://content.time.com/time/nation/...610414,00.html
Much different than having your lawyers delete 30k YOGA emails or "what's for dinner" exchanges with your husband (you know the guy that stated he never sent an email in his entire life). And THEN delete the backups. Or how Obama had a "phantom" email address alias he would use to communicate with HRC on her server? That email server?
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Ok so it's fine for the RNC's attorney's to sort through emails but not Clinton's attorneys?
Didn't the DOJ state there was nothing left to uncover?
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05-29-2018, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
You mean the ones that were deleted (as policy of where they were on RNC servers) but mostly recovered from backup? Then GUV officials could go through everything raw and determine if things were illegal or not.
If you have backups going long enough you can restore entire Exchange Databases and this is what they did.
http://content.time.com/time/nation/...610414,00.html
Much different than having your lawyers delete 30k YOGA emails or "what's for dinner" exchanges with your husband (you know the guy that stated he never sent an email in his entire life). And THEN delete the backups. Or how Obama had a "phantom" email address alias he would use to communicate with HRC on her server? That email server?
That server? Actually it was several servers over time, running in multiple locations with real crappy security.
Frankly, her email server (unpatched BTW) is as susceptible if not more than Trump's personal cell - BOTH are gross mishandling of digital information.
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Selective outrage. High level government officials using a private server in Bush admin was perfectly ok. 22 million emails lost, but really were mislabeled. Secretary of State Powell used private email server. No problem. Trump tweets about his "accomplishments" in a memorial day message and out comes the Hillary b.s. SAD!
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05-29-2018, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
Selective outrage. High level government officials using a private server in Bush admin was perfectly ok. 22 million emails lost, but really were mislabeled. Secretary of State Powell used private email server. No problem. Trump tweets about his "accomplishments" in a memorial day message and out comes the Hillary b.s. SAD!
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No, Colin Powell used a Gmail account for a few non-work items. Same with Rice. They did not hide a server in a bathroom or in their home's basement.
What Bush's team did was wrong, they were called out on it, and after some arm twisting, provided backups and allow GUVIT to dig through and inspect as needed.
What Hillary did was take all electronic copy, delete 30k emails, and parse through with her lawyers and printed out copies than erased, destroyed, and dismembered her servers. THEN to further complicate things, they forbade their backup vendor Datto - a system I am intimately familiar with which I use for backing up systems like what Clinton used - again systems I am intimately familiar with. There was Classified info on that system, in the Cloud.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-investigation
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/em...rivate-server/
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05-30-2018, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
No, Colin Powell used a Gmail account for a few non-work items.
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That is just not true. Powell used the account for government business. There was correspondence of what was later deemed classified that went through that account. Clinton's behavior was more egregious, yes, but that still doesn't make it relevant to Trumps MEmorial day tweet.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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05-30-2018, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
That is just not true. Powell used the account for government business. There was correspondence of what was later deemed classified that went through that account. Clinton's behavior was more egregious, yes, but that still doesn't make it relevant to Trumps MEmorial day tweet.
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Thanks for reminding me - there was a little that was deemed classified after the fact. It was still not as significant as her email and the 33000 she deleted. Of which many were determined classified after the fact.
The Relevance to Trump's phone is that they are both significant security concerns and bad judgment by the principals. You can see that, right?
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