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06-15-2018, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Conservatives Clinton emails =Criminal
Conservatives Trump Russian investigation and indictments = witch hunt
Conservatives Benghazi = 4 left to die outrageous Criminal
Conservatives Niger attack leaves 4 US soldiers dead =
Conservatives Obama to Talk to north Korea = sacrilegious
Conservatives Trump to Talk to north Korea = divine intervention
Conservatives behaving in a way that suggests one has higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
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We know Hilary was reckless with her emails. There's still very little evidence to show Trump collusion. If there is, he needs to be held accountable. But the investigation hasn't shown much.
As to Niger, did the people who were killed, repeatedly ask for more security? Did Trump lie about the underlying motive for the attack?
On North Korea, there has been legitimate hypocrisy, you are correct. On the other points, well you are trying to prove that liberal=good, conservative=bad, as usual.
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06-15-2018, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
There's still very little evidence to show Trump collusion. If there is, he needs to be held accountable. But the investigation hasn't shown much.
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Jim, do we have to do this again? The investigation hasn't published a report and leaking as been virtually nonexistent.
What's in the public domain is that the campaign absolutely did collude with Russians in the Trump tower, that Trump did consistently and actively encourage election meddling even after he knew it was the Russians...even to the point of working to cover it up.
If this isn't betrayal I'm not sure what is.
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06-15-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Jim, do we have to do this again? The investigation hasn't published a report and leaking as been virtually nonexistent.
What's in the public domain is that the campaign absolutely did collude with Russians in the Trump tower, that Trump did consistently and actively encourage election meddling even after he knew it was the Russians...even to the point of working to cover it up.
If this isn't betrayal I'm not sure what is.
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"The investigation hasn't published a report "
Number 1, it's been, what, almost a year? Number two, I didn't know that nothing could be inferred until a report was published, silly me.
"What's in the public domain is that the campaign absolutely did collude with Russians in the Trump tower"
Really?
"Trump did consistently and actively encourage election meddling "
You might be thinking of the DNC meddling in their own primary, with help from CNN of course...
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06-15-2018, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"The investigation hasn't published a report "
"What's in the public domain is that the campaign absolutely did collude with Russians in the Trump tower"
Really?
"Trump did consistently and actively encourage election meddling "
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06-15-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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He also said Obama wasn't born here, and that he doesn't respect John McCain.
He says an awful lot of kooky stuff.
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06-15-2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Really?
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Yes, unless you believe that meeting really was about adoption (remember, DJT Jr 'I love it') and Trump didn't lie about dictating the cover up response.
Was it criminal, we'll see.
As far as the investigation being to long, how long was Ken Starr's investigation? Were you appalled by the length of that?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-15-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Yes, unless you believe that meeting really was about adoption (remember, DJT Jr 'I love it') and Trump didn't lie about dictating the cover up response.
Was it criminal, we'll see.
As far as the investigation being to long, how long was Ken Starr's investigation? Were you appalled by the length of that?
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Brian, kind of like believing that Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch were just passing the time on the private jet, the day before Hilary was cleared.
The politicians are beyond disgusting, many ordinary citizens cheer for something one day, deride it the next depending on who's in charge. I've been saying it since Obama was sworn in, I don't know what unites us anymore, I just don't, other than contempt we have for the other side.
If we're going o let the investigation play out, let's stop pretending we know more than what has been made available.
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06-15-2018, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Brian, kind of like believing that Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch were just passing the time on the private jet, the day before Hilary was cleared.
The politicians are beyond disgusting, many ordinary citizens cheer for something one day, deride it the next depending on who's in charge. I've been saying it since Obama was sworn in, I don't know what unites us anymore, I just don't, other than contempt we have for the other side.
If we're going o let the investigation play out, let's stop pretending we know more than what has been made available.
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The Lynch thing was shady, no doubt. I don't recall much defense of it here.
This isn't pretending. They have blatantly lied about that meeting at Trump Tower, the emails have come out, and the stories have changed multiple times.
Again, maybe not criminal, but certainly warrants the continuation of the investigation, whatever Gulliani wants to say.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-16-2018, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Again, maybe not criminal, but certainly warrants the continuation of the investigation, whatever Gulliani wants to say.
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a politically biased investigation begun under false pretenses...that's pretty bad...I hope whatever they find regarding Trump and the Russians is worse than Obama's politicization and weaponization of the DOJ and FBI
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06-17-2018, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Again, maybe not criminal, but certainly warrants the continuation of the investigation, whatever Gulliani wants to say.
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better do something soon....
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...mp-poll-643491
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06-15-2018, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Brian, kind of like believing that Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch were just passing the time on the private jet, the day before Hilary was cleared.
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But per the IG report there wasn’t a case to be made. Are you suggesting the AG magically rewrote the entire investigation and made career FBI officials suddenly reverse course in a day???
Lynch made a mistake given the optics but I don’t see how she could have influenced anything with what we know today.
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06-15-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
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What's in the public domain is that the campaign absolutely did collude with Russians in the Trump tower, that Trump did consistently and actively encourage election meddling even after he knew it was the Russians...even to the point of working to cover it up.
If this isn't betrayal I'm not sure what is.
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they he'll probably go to jail....
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