Trump calls press enemy of the people

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

thats funny coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar liar and was horrible .. The media is helping my side making Trump look sympathetic No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs while turning a blind eye to everything else thats going on in the Trump Magic show ... and convincing yourself its the media's doing ... Sorry Trump has all ready put you in a state of hypnosis.. you just think you can control and put the genie back in the constitutional bottle if it needs to happen .. maybe but its doubtful

"coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar "

But I am 100% correct when I say that. When Obama was selling the ACA, he said you could keep you plan and doctor if you wanted. He was wrong. I don't believe he was lying, I think he believed it to be true, it just turned out he was wrong.

"No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs "

I am brutally critical of Trump when he deserves it, which is often. We have that in common. The difference between us, the only difference, is that I can also give him credit when he does something that helps us.

You define "a few crumbs" as Apple paying $38 billion in federal taxes, and adding 20,000 new jobs. That's one company. Only someone with literally zero understanding of how the private sector works, would call that crumbs.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You define "a few crumbs" as Apple paying $38 billion in federal taxes, and adding 20,000 new jobs. That's one company. Only someone with literally zero understanding of how the private sector works, would call that crumbs.

Jim, Here is how the crumbs are distributed and if you look you can see why it is called crumbs. No it is not all Trumps fault, but the tax cut did not reduce the disparity or make it so the bottom 50% had more of a chance to gain some wealth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fba25527f619

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim, Here is how the crumbs are distributed and if you look you can see why it is called crumbs. No it is not all Trumps fault, but the tax cut did not reduce the disparity or make it so the bottom 50% had more of a chance to gain some wealth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fba25527f619

"the tax cut did not reduce the disparity "

What does reduce the disparity, which has been shown to work and to be sustainable? Please tell me.

I go back to Bill Clinton again, who cut capital gains taxes (which obviously disproportionately helps wealthy people), and he kicked millions of poor people off of welfare. He helped fuel the tech boom which made already-wealthy people, ungodly wealthy. Yet he is a hero of the left. Why? Can you explain why, please?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"the tax cut did not reduce the disparity "

What does reduce the disparity, which has been shown to work and to be sustainable? Please tell me.
You didn't read the article did you?

I go back to Bill Clinton again, who cut capital gains taxes (which obviously disproportionately helps wealthy people), and he kicked millions of poor people off of welfare. He helped fuel the tech boom which made already-wealthy people, ungodly wealthy. I thought Al Gore invented the Internet Yet he is a hero of the left. Why? Can you explain why, please?

Jim,
Why would you think I could explain Bill Clinton to you?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim,
Why would you think I could explain Bill Clinton to you?

"You didn't read the article did you?"

Nope. So I'll repeat the question, what has been shown to reduce the disparity and is sustainable. Is the disparity 'bad'? If Bill Gates earns another million dollars today, why is that bad? He didn't steal it from anyone, no one else is a million dollars poorer, and he will pay some taxes on it, spend some, invest some, give some away. Those are all good things. The liberal fixation on the wealthy makes zero sense. The more wealthy people there are, the less the feds need to take form everyone else.

"Why would you think I could explain Bill Clinton to you?"

In other words, you have no response, because there is no reasonable response. But you aren't about to admit that.

Let me tell you this, when my beliefs cannot withstand the scrutiny of such a simple question, that's the day I re-think what I believe.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"You didn't read the article did you?"

Nope. So I'll repeat the question, what has been shown to reduce the disparity and is sustainable. Is the disparity 'bad'? If Bill Gates earns another million dollars today, why is that bad? He didn't steal it from anyone, no one else is a million dollars poorer, and he will pay some taxes on it, spend some, invest some, give some away. Those are all good things. The liberal fixation on the wealthy makes zero sense. The more wealthy people there are, the less the feds need to take form everyone else.

"Why would you think I could explain Bill Clinton to you?"

In other words, you have no response, because there is no reasonable response. But you aren't about to admit that.

Let me tell you this, when my beliefs cannot withstand the scrutiny of such a simple question, that's the day I re-think what I believe.

Jim,
You have a very narrow set of beliefs, Jim's right and everyone who disagrees with him is foolish and a liberal. Since you can't even read an article that might conflict with your beliefs of course you can withstand scrutiny in your mind because you have no reason to question what you know.
You are truly qualified as a member of the Super Elite
Bill Gates is perfectly capable of explaining the problems with income distribution but you likely won't read that either
http://fortune.com/2014/10/15/bill-g...me-inequality/

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim,
You have a very narrow set of beliefs, Jim's right and everyone who disagrees with him is foolish and a liberal. Since you can't even read an article that might conflict with your beliefs of course you can withstand scrutiny in your mind because you have no reason to question what you know.
You are truly qualified as a member of the Super Elite
Bill Gates is perfectly capable of explaining the problems with income distribution but you likely won't read that either
http://fortune.com/2014/10/15/bill-g...me-inequality/

I have a very, very broad set of beliefs, in some cases I side with liberals ( gay marriage, death penalty). It’s notnthat my beliefs are narrow, it's that im honest and very fair.

Bill gates is a world class computer programmer, whybusbhe wualified to speak on income inequality? I asked YOU, why is it bad if bill gates, ornopeah winfrey, or George Clooney, get richer today? How does that hurt anybody? Answer - it doesn’t. How could you possibly make the case that it hurts anybody? He’s not stealing the wealth, he is creating it.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim,
You have a very narrow set of beliefs, Jim's right and everyone who disagrees with him is foolish and a liberal. Since you can't even read an article that might conflict with your beliefs of course you can withstand scrutiny in your mind because you have no reason to question what you know.
You are truly qualified as a member of the Super Elite
Bill Gates is perfectly capable of explaining the problems with income distribution but you likely won't read that either
http://fortune.com/2014/10/15/bill-g...me-inequality/

OK, I read it. Gates wants to stop taxing wealth, and tax consumption instead. I have no idea, none at all, what the pros and cons of that are. The article didn't get into it at all. I'm supposed to think it's a good idea, just because Bill Gates says so? How about convincing me with facts, logic, common sense, empirical evidence?