Lawyer, Fixer or Liar

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Michael Cohen is ready to testify that the president* knew in advance of the now-legendary meeting in June of 2016 at which individuals connected to the Russian government

Were they actually officials of the Russian government? What does "connected to the Russian government" mean? Isn't every citizen of Russia connected to the Russian government?

offered to ratfck Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign for him,

Is opposition research ratfcking?

we stand as a self-governing republic

I wholeheartedly agree with this. A self governing republic, not a democracy.

at a stark, unclouded moment—either you believe the president* of the United States is utterly illegitimate, having conspired with a hostile power to gain the office he now holds,

Were the Russians at the meeting a hostile power?

and that every act he has taken in that office, up to and including swearing the oath of office, is equally illegitimate, or you do not. It is now a binary. If Cohen is willing to testify to that effect, then the president* conspired with the regime of Vladimir Putin

Was the regime of Vladimir Putin at the meeting?

in order to gain control over the executive branch of government in this country—which includes not only the military, but the law-enforcement and intelligence apparatus as well. We are now at yes-or-no."
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
JUL 27, 2018

We are not at war with Russia. We, and the administration before this one, and before that previous administration, peaceably negotiated various agreements with the Russian government. Russian government officials were not at the meeting. Nothing was "conspired" at the meeting. The meeting did not ratfck Hillary's campaign. Nor was there an offer to do so made at the meeting.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

We are not at war with Russia. We, and the administration before this one, and before that previous administration, peaceably negotiated various agreements with the Russian government. Russian government officials were not at the meeting. Nothing was "conspired" at the meeting. The meeting did not ratfck Hillary's campaign. Nor was there an offer to do so made at the meeting.

The meeting its most basic is already a proven conspiracy. That they covered it up just seals the deal.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

The meeting its most basic is already a proven conspiracy. That they covered it up just seals the deal.
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What conspiracy was proved?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

All I know is the chickens are coming home to roost. Fraudulent payments to silence affairs, illegally profiting off of your office, collusion with the enemy...we've never seen anything like this.

I am on the fence WRT Trump on whether he "colluded" or not (or more accurately illegally conspired). I would not be surprised if he and his minions get busted, a position I held before he was elected.

But immagonna laugh at this part "Fraudulent payments to silence affairs, illegally profiting off of your office, collusion with the enemy...we've never seen anything like this." We will not have seen anything like this until we find the bathroom Trump hid HIS server in

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I am on the fence WRT Trump on whether he "colluded" or not (or more accurately illegally conspired). I would not be surprised if he and his minions get busted, a position I held before he was elected.

But immagonna laugh at this part "Fraudulent payments to silence affairs, illegally profiting off of your office, collusion with the enemy...we've never seen anything like this." We will not have seen anything like this until we find the bathroom Trump hid HIS server in

Yeah power corrupts absolutely, isn’t the first time we’ve seen it and it probably won’t be the last.
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